Truth about the Knights Party

David Barnett - KKK Member and Local Boy Scout Leader

2008-04-10T11:58:00.000-07:00

David Barnett is a coward. He goes by David Martsen because he is too coward to be known. Since Mr. Barnett is a fraud, we are going to expose him. I am sure the media in Raleigh, NC will love to know about this! I am also sure the local boy scouts will love to know this.

Boy Scouts of America
(919) 828-9662 - 2429 Appalachian Dr, Raleigh, NC
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Boy Scouts of America
(919) 872-4884 - 3231 Atlantic Ave, Raleigh, NC
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Please feel free to contact them ASAP and report David Barnett, the same coward who was too scared to face the Rhino Times. Speaking of the media, here is how to contact them!

http://news14.com/

Or the local newspaper!!!

http://www.newsobserver.com/

No feedback or proof from the National HQ - proves they steal funds

2008-02-22T11:17:00.000-08:00

I gave the Knights Party National HQ 7 days to provide proof of where their funds go to. Well, it's been way longer then 7 days and no proof. Of course you and I both know they steal and misuse funds. The proof is simple, they were to chicken to answer us. If you had proof, would you not come forward and show it? And yes, they do read this blog. We know because we get death threats and silly comments from their members weekly. Once again, the Knights Party proves they are frauds!!

Be gone 7-10 days

2008-01-31T22:01:00.000-08:00

My wife and I are on our way to Europe. I will be gone between 7-10 days. Thanks for all the great feedback from all the people out there. And thanks for all the insane lack of common sense threats from the members of the Knights' Party, the biggest scam and fraud the white movement has ever seen. Be back soon. Until then, 83!!

To Thom Robb and National HQ

2008-01-30T09:00:00.000-08:00

We are calling you out.

1) We want proof of where all monthly donations go. You claim they go to the white race. Really? Then show us what you spend monthly donations on. Other groups show proof of where their monthly donations go. If they can, so can you. We will give you 7 days to provide us the proof. If not, it proves to us you are pocketing all the money.

2) At HQ, you have over 40 bricks you sold to members for $350 each. Can you show proof of where this money went besides your back pocket?

We will give you 7 days to answer. If not, we take this as proof you steal movement funds. Other groups inform members where their money goes. If they can, so can you.

A Knights' Party member speaks out: Guess Thom Robb takes anyone like we've said all along

2008-01-30T00:50:00.000-08:00

Staff - Wow, just wow. Man, where does Thom Robb find these people? Wait, he never turns down an application. Here is an e-mail from one of his members. Too funny. Read the pure retardation of this moron.

Staff what staff... I have $500 says you wont meet rpersentatives in person to deliver that so called information you have....we have proof in the pudding your a liar....which is slanderous and there fore punnishable by laws of the state which you are posting in. Come clean and we will not prosecute! -Maximous

Staff - First off, what is a rpersentatives? I've never seen that word in my life. Second, I am waiting on his so-called proof that we are liars. Below are some of the facts we've proved that cannot be a lie.

1) Don Black, former leader of the Knights' Party did break into the office of another White Nationalist.

2) David Duke, a former leader of the Knights' Party was caught on tape selling his KKK membership list to a FBI agent.

3) Thom Robb has never provided proof or a bill of where his 40 plus bricks at $350 apiece income has went to.

4) Randy Gray is a high school dropout.

5) The Knights' Party did lie about units that don't exist.

6) The Knights' Party does sell people rank.

And of course I could go on and on. But as you can tell, I proved my point. I also have another question for this idiot that e-mailed us here, what is "punnishable"?

Members of the Knights' Party upset with our blog

2008-01-29T15:29:00.000-08:00

In the past three days dozens of threats have been made against the staff here at Christian Frauds. Members of the Knights' Party have threaten us with violence, reporting us to Google (oh well, we have a back up blog at wordpress) and with the FBI (typical of members of theirs to work with FEDS - recall Randy Gray worked with Hal Turner who was recently outed as an FBI informer).

1) Threatening me with violence does very little. Actually, it makes me want to work on this blog even more than I already do.

2) Contact Google. This blog makes fun of a KKK group. LOL, do you think Google cares? I am shocked they aren't helping me write this blog.

3) Call the FBI. It's not illegal to point out facts and post the comments of others, unless that data is copyrighted. It's also not illegal for people to post their comments in the comment section. If someone wants to write Thom Robb is a conman, they have that right - its called free speech.

If you people don't like this blog, oh well. Your shouldn't belong to a group that does nothing. We want one thing on this blog to be proven a lie. Until then, shut up. We have offered $50 for anything to be proven a lie here. And yet, no one has taken us up on our challenge. Instead, we are threaten with attacks and nasty comments. Very typical of the "Christians" who make up the phony Knights' Party.

Again I ask you all the following questions -

1) Where was Thom Robb and the Knights' Party during Jena 6?

2) Where was Thom Robb and the Knights' Party during the Black on White Norfolk attack?

3) Where was Thom Robb and the Knights' Party during Pitts and his "cry me a river" comment?

4) Where was Thom Robb and the Knights' Party during Knoxville 1 and 2?

5) Where was Thom Robb and the Knights' Party during the time their Kansas member was exposed by a reporter?

We will also ask these questions again -

1) Why does the Knights' Party allow black state leaders?

2) Why does the Knights' Party allow news reporters to join and expose their members?

3) Why does the Knights' Party allow a dog to join?

Don Black: Keynote speaker at the Knights' Party Faith and Freedom Conference

2008-01-23T10:23:00.000-08:00

This can be found on the main page at www.kkk.com. For a group which claims to be Christian, one would think they could do better than Don Black, a known conman and thief. Black has a past of stealing from others, selling drugs and ripping other whites off. You refresh your memory here at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_(white_nationalist) and http://christianfrauds.blogspot.com/2008/01/leadership-of-knights-party.html.

I wonder will Thom Robb and Rachel Pendergraft tell their members about Black's past such as breaking into the offices of fellow white nationalists, selling drugs, helping Duke out with his cocaine and hooker past and stealing movement cash?

Child slave labor at the Knights Party HQ ?

2008-01-22T23:06:00.000-08:00

I find it sick when people use their children to make a quick buck. That idea alone is Jewish in nature.

Look at April Gadee of the National Alliance. That whore forced her children into making music. She didn't care that they were being exposed to child molesting perverts such as Kevin Strom, Matt Downey or John Justice. All April saw was dollar signs. The well being of her children meant nothing.

After doing some research, it seems Thom Robb is doing the same with his teen age grand-daughters.

First off, here is their website, http://heritageconnection.tv/.

Second, read their blog, http://www.heritageconnectionband.blogspot.com/. Is it just me or does it look like every blog is being coached? What I mean is, it seems like like they are talking like robots. They are saying what they are told to say by someone else. That is the feeling I get. You read and make up your own mind.

Third, take a look at the gift shop, http://www.ozarkcrafts.net/music.htm. Like April, the Knights Party are using underage children against their will to make a quick buck - sick.

Fourth, look at this link, http://heritageconnection.tv/About.htm. Nice that they post pictures of their underage kids for any sick pervert to download. But then again, what should we expect from the leadership of the Knights' Party? Anyway they can make a quick dollar is okay in their eyes.

Jessica Gray: Admits that dogs can join the Knights Party

2008-01-21T12:47:00.000-08:00

Seen above is Jessica while she stares down the pot roast and cake.

Staff - It amazes me how people will deny things then turn around and openly admit it later on down the road. for months Jessica Gray claimed a "dog" was not part of the Knights Party.

Taken from http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=64562

Although it is off topic, I find it interesting that your members have soooo much free time and money that they can join other groups to troll and surf their web boards just to create problems. Says quite about about your member's charcter. Maybe I should sign up for the ANSWP under my dogs name, or maybe just one I pull out of the phone book. - Jessica Gray

Staff - She admits she may sign up for the ANSWP to return the favor since they did that to the Knights Party. One problem, Bill White does background checks and doesn't live off of movement money like Thom Robb...
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Debbie Downey - KKK Mascot Whore?

2008-01-21T09:50:00.000-08:00

Staff - Again, these are not the words of anyone here at Christian Frauds. These are from a nearly four year old thread at VNN. The thread can be found here, http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2802&page=3.

Let me guess. You are affiliated with Klunt Downey.

Klunt and Ksludge Downey's goings-on are legendary within CI. Klunt herself, when accused with the goods I had gotten NEVER denied the truth of the allegations that she had been the sexual mascot of the Washington State Klan, and that her ex-husband the Grand Dragon made her the 'entertainment.' At least she didn't deny it back in March-April 2002. Instead she whined and screetched that I was spreading 'malicious gossip.'

This past summer, she tried to do some damage control by making the fact that she was a whore to be all her ex-husband's fault. She also tried to figure out who had given me the info by claiming that 'only two' women might have been the source, when in fact, it could have been the wives of any of the Klansmen who enjoyed her favors. I'm pretty careful of my sources.

http://www.martinlindstedt.org/ml062103.html

I gave her the name of 'Klunt' for obvious reasons. She obviously thought that being the wife of the Grand Dragon gave her the right to be second from the top, when in fact she was almost always on the bottom. 'Klailiff' indeed. She may have been 'vice-president' of her Klan according to her, but she had much to do with putting the 'vice' into that office/orifice.

Most of my sources say that Ksludge Downey is even more odious. A liar, a sneak, and a cheat who tries to back-stab the One-Seedliners like Barley and Peters. Is it any wonder that the One-Seedliners despise them both, nearly as much as us Dual-Seedliners? That is why the only idiots who believe that Klunt and you are genuine Identity females are the WN-lite fools at Stormfront?

I have my suspicions as to your genuine identity. You are either a fool or a liar, I suspect both, regarding what Peters teaches. Peters is leery of us Dual-Seedliners because we have criticised some of his teachings in the One-Seedliner mode. However, somebody is going to be in charge of the One-Seedliners and it might as well be Peters, as opposed to real baal-priests like Barley and Wieland.

Insofar as your behavior is concerned, it is no wonder that you cause mischief with your lesboskank femnishevikism between CI and non-CI Movement people. Where is the man who is responsible with his life for your behavior? Obviously, you are just a wild cunt wasting air running your mouth and causing trouble without any masculine supervision in defiance of YHWH's Law. It sure didn't take long for even the unbelievers to figure out that there was something wrong with you. Garrett doesn't know much of CI dogma, but he got you pegged quick enough.

The only thing which passes your [nether] lips of value will be cannon-fodder for Christian Israel, because obviously you don't have much, if anything for a brain. And if you are who I think you are, there is a reason why you have been banned from every little Dual-Seedline congregation in Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee. Not a single church elder wants a repeat of having you sling your douchebag across his chops.

That is the good thing about Christian Identity. A Christian Israelite has the Law of YHWH written on their heart. I've NEVER had an argument with a genuine Christian Israelite woman EVER because a genuine Christian Israelite woman NEVER argues with a Christian Israelite man, especially any man who is not her husband, father, or brother. There is a reason for I Corinthians 14:34-35.

I am not angry at Klunt Downey because she was a whore, who whored with only token resistance at her ex-husband's command. ZOGland is full of sluts. I didn't know or care to know of her. I have no personal animus against her, until I was enraged when that lying, sneaking evil bitch dared to lift up her hand to an Elder and Teacher of the Faith, who even if he erred and was naive to be used as cover by baal-priest agents provacateur, was writing and expounding on the Law of YHWH to the milk-bibbers. I knew full well then Klunt was not one of us, and so I asked for, and received confirmation of her conduct.

The Sword of YHWH shall start first in YHWH's House. You shall be cut off unless you learn obedience starting with the man who is in charge of you and responsible for your behavior with his very life. I doubt that you are in obedience to any Christian Israelite man.

Insofar as the rest of this Forum is concerned: This female is NOT one of us. She is merely a stray bitch under the dominion of no man. You may treat her as such if you catch her running your sheep or killing your chickens.

--Martin Lindstedt
A Defender of the [Dual-Seedline] Faith

Too funny: A must read

2008-01-18T11:44:00.000-08:00

When John and Ed Kundrot quit, so did 25 other members of the Knights Party in the Boston area. Thom Robb, Rachel Pendergraft and a handful of members claimed they were drunks and informers. Soon the lies and gossip spread. Of course this was pure slander, something the Knights Party and their membership does very well. What is funny is, I found links of stories at www.kkk.com that John Kundrot, a so-called informer wrote.

Now, if you ran a pro-white group, would you promote the work of an FBI informer? I am guessing you would not. Of course John Kundrot is no more an FBI informer than Andy Haskins is sober (Indiana State Leader). Below are some links to the "Informer" and his writing.

http://www.kkk.bz/white_teachers_need_not_apply.htm

http://www.kkk.bz/cleaning_up_your_room.htm

Amazing a group would have aritcles posted by a "FBI informer". Of course like I've already stated, John and his family are not informers. This is nothing but pure slander by the Knights Party. This is a common method by them against ex-members who expose them. Below are a list of ex-members who expose them and the lies they tell on them.

Ron Edwards - Robb claims he is a drunk. Ron is not.

rv311 - (not sure of his real name) Robb claims he is a drunk. He is not.

Michael Burks - Randy Gray claims he is gay. He is not.

John Kundrot - Robb claims he is a FBI informer. He is not.

Ed Kundrot - Robb claims he is a drunk. Ed is not.

As you can tell, they lie about all ex-members who expose them.

"Leadership" of the Knights Party

2008-01-18T10:56:00.000-08:00

David Duke – Duke was a conman who led the Knights Party from 1976-1981. He tried to rip Dr. Pierce off in 1976 over a story that Pierce wrote. Duke was known to cheat on his wife and steal movement funds. Tom Metzger was one of the first to openly expose Duke as the fraud he was. In 1981, Duke was caught on film selling his KKK membership to the Imperial Wizard of the Invisible Empire – who was an FBI informer. Duke also admitted to drinking and gambling problems. Much of this was bought and paid for with movement money. Duke was sent to jail a few years back for stealing movement money. He was not set-up by Jews like the Stormfront crew claims. Since that time, Duke fame in the United States has disappeared. That is why he spends all his time in Europe where his lying and conman ways are little known.

Don Black – By age 16, Black was breaking into fellow White Nationalist’s offices stealing membership lists. He along with a group of Duke supporters tried to take over an Island for what they claim was “A white homeland”. In reality, they were setting up a racketeering scam to sell drugs, pimp out hookers and gambling. This illegal made money would fund Duke and his “president” campaign. Black then founded Stormfront and has ripped people off ever since. He backs pro-Jewish groups such as the BNP and the CCC – two groups that allow non-white and Jewish membership.

Thom Robb – Since 1989, Thom “The Robber” has been ripping people off. He has ripped people off with “hot line” fund-raisers and brick scams. During his rule non-whites, FBI informers, reporters and even a dog have all joined. His group does nothing besides throw fliers in people’s yards and run a public access show begging for money. Thom has done away with the ‘Grand Council” and replaced with his family members. The Knights Party is a family run business to simply support Thom and his family. Again, we ask the following questions since Robb claims to be a “spokesman” for our people –

1 – Where was he during Jena 6?

2- Where was he during the Norfolk attack?

3 – Where was he in Knoxville?

4- Where was he at against Pitts?

5- Where was he when his Kansas member was exposed by a reporter?

I guess he was busy counting his $350 bricks and laughing his way to the bank.

Michael Burks and Pastor Visser expose the Knights Party and their membership

2008-01-17T10:19:00.001-08:00

This was the best ANSWP show of all time as far as I'm concerned. Out of all the shows with Bill White and Von, I'd take this show over any of them any day.

The Knights Party and many of their members are exposed with great detail and fact -

1) Learn about the $350 brick scam by Thom Robb

2) Learn all the lies and slander committed by Randy and Jessica Gray

3) Non-white members of the Knights Party

4) FBI membership in the Knights Party

5) News reporters openly join and expose members while the leadership does nothing

6) Mark and Debbie Downey teach Talmudic views over Christian views

7) The Drunk members of the Knights Party are exposed

And so much more. If you have not heard this show, please listen here http://vonbluvens.org/answpsh010808.mp3. People, you need to know the truth about such frauds. These people are not for the white race. Read over this blog. The leadership or members of the Knights Party cannot prove anything here to be a lie or false. Instead, they use slanderous attacks against us. Again, we will offer them $50 for anything they can prove to be false here. So far they have not taken us up on our bet which we challenged them over with two months ago.

Why? Because, they are frauds with no truth in them!

More proof Randy Gray/Knights Party of Michigan were allies with an FBI informer

2008-01-17T10:17:00.000-08:00

Everyone remember all the shit we took for protesting him atKalamazoo.
Frankly, a good number of “white supremacist” events in this countryin the past five years have been organized, initiated, or led by theFBI, and I wonder sometimes how much of the movement is simply agovernment front.
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Hate-monitoring group: Turner was FBI informant
By Paul BrooksTimes Herald-RecordJanuary 17, 2008Hal Turner stalked in front of Kingston High School with his neo-Nazisupporters in 2005, tossing white-power taunts at counter-demonstrators.
That was just part of his legacy. He railed against President Bushand Jews, too. He handed out the private addresses of New JerseySupreme Court justices.
But some government agencies are OK if you work for them — and Turnerapparently did.
He was an FBI informant, according to the Southern Poverty LawCenter, a group that monitors hate groups and extremists.
According to the center, hackers confronted Turner on his Web siteJan. 1 and told him they had broken into Turner’s computer server.
What they found were e-mails between Turner and an FBI agent who wasapparently Turner’s handler. The unidentified hackers posted a July 7e-mail to the agent. In it, Turner gave the agent a message fromsomeone threatening to kill Sen. Russ Feingold, Democrat ofWisconsin, the center said in a story on its Web site,www.splcenter.org.
“Once again,” Turner wrote to the agent, “my fierce rhetoric hasserved to flush out a possible crazy.”
When the e-mails hit a neo-Nazi Web site, Turner shut down his ownWeb site. “I hereby separate from the “pro-White” movement. I will nolonger involve myself in any aspect of it,” Turner said.
Yesterday, Turner said the only thing he can say about the FBIallegation is “no comment.” The FBI hasn’t commented, either.
The center’s Mark Potok didn’t object to the FBI’s use of informantsin general. “There is no question these are groups in many, manycases that really do need infiltrating, but … this goes way overthe line. It is like a game of Russian roulette and we are the bait.”
Kingston Mayor Jim Sottile was dumbfounded by the revelation ofTurner’s FBI informant status. “You can’t make this stuff up,” themayor said.
Maybe Turner was acting all the time, Sottile said. “But it wasn’t anact when he had this whole community in an uproar and cost us$80,000.”

Debbie Downey - KKK slut? Read for yourself

2008-01-14T12:29:00.000-08:00

The below comments are not those of the staff here at Christian Frauds. These are taken from http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/ml062103.html. We are not saying these are true or not. However, please read and make your own mind up.

I'm going to Joplin with my wife and grandchildren in a few minutes, so I don't have time to answer Klunt's counter-accusations today. However, like most of the vermin that I have outed over the years, like Kernal Red Mike Vanderkike, Khazarl Worden, Ed-the-FiBbIe Dog (misnomered Wolfe), and Claire-the-Jackal (also misnomered Wolfe) it is always best to make accusations based upon what elements of truth are available at the time, then have their ego bring them into the trap wherein more can be discovered about their allies, sources of support, etc. In interrogating these Spawn of Satan one doesn't have the power to compel them to attend for interrogation, much less use methods to make them talk. All these degenerates have is their ego, in which they threaten to sue, whine, and then have their fellow kikes have you censored, i.e., jewhooed. Their ego brings them back until such time they realize that they have said way too much.
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/tsmc-5.html
I urge people to look at Klunt's jewhoo profile. It indicates quite a bit which Dual-Seedliners will find to be satanic. She definitely has a Genesis 3:15 hatred of us, which, as a spawn of Satan she should have. Genesis 3:15 is the only one of YHWH's Commandments that both the spawn of Satan and the Sons of YHWH both obey. Look at Klunt's article on Stormfront. It has the reek of godless kike satanic femnishevism. I have no doubt that Klunt was quite a number and that she was the sexual mascot of the Washington State KKK, pimped out by her husband the Grand Dragon, until she run off with Downey.
What got me onto this whore's bad side was her obvious hatred of Dual-Seedline and her getting Willie Martin censored off of Andy Blanchardsmamzer-Belialsson Anderson's former Holy_War jewhoogroop after Andy had purged all of the Dual-Seedliners and thus had no use for Willie Martin being a moderator to use as camoflage and cover. Yes, I wanted Willie to leave Belialsson's listserver preferably voluntarily, and was really happy that Klunt pulled a Salome on Willie, but still, only us Dual-Seedliners get to treat fellow Dual-Seedliners mean, NOT some lying satanic whore for her own self-serving satanic purposes.
So when it happened back in March 2002, I immediately asked the Dual-Seedliners in Washington State to dig me up a big steaming stinking pile of shit on Downey and Klunt, and was pretty much gratified to find out that they were regarded as worse than Annaniass and Sapphira. Nobody loves a whore and her monger, especially sanctimonious degenerate ones putting on airs. Needless to say, I got an earful on Klunt and Downey.
Klunt and Downey have no place to go. They are marked and branded as Satan's livestock by the Klan and the Christian Identity devout, doth One- and Dual-Seedliners. The One-Seedliners won't allow these thieving dogs into their flock to pull a Jim&Tammy Bakker on them. They are known to Identity folk as far away as Virginia. The only refuge that they have is playing Identity on ignorant Nazi wannabes, and I'm closing that option.
Klunt's denials mean nothing to me or anyone because Klunt is a liar on the other side. Those that hate me or Dual-Seedline won't believe anything I say, either. In ZOG's final days, truth is altogether a function of what side you are on.
Klunt was smarter in the spring of 2002. When Klunt's biographical history came out, Klunt waited a week, denied none of it, and merely screetched that myself and a few others were bruiting about 'vicious gossip.' Klunt wouldn't come out baring her teeth like a cornered rat unless Klunt felt, correctly, that she is cornered and has no other choice.
OK, Klunt, give it your best shot. I'd advise you not to make a Terms of Service cumplaint to jewhoo like Meggie and Turkic Kikehound did because the one unforgivable thing which will never be forgotten is getting an entire listserver jewhooed. It happens so often; jd_grier is in its third or so new group. ZOGs_War got jewhooed a week or so ago, and you are one of the suspects. Drop the jewhoo bomb of censorship, Klunt, and jew might as well pack it in forever.
By the way, even though Klunt has been e-mailing me directly, good sense in avoiding a jewhoo cumplaint involves NEVER talking directly to these spawn of Satan, as they will call in the ADL/SPLC/FBI and all of ZOG's guard dogs. Klunt is reading every word about herself, as is Downey, and they are shitting bullets. They have but a short time and they have been outed.
--Martin LindstedtBouncer of Baal-Priests and Temple Prostitutes
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Klunt ("lydia_the_faithful" (lydia@kinsmanredeemer.com) ) sez:
I have heard this garbage from Lindstedt long enough. While I owe NO explanation to Lindstedt, he has perpetuated lies about me ever since I married Mark Downey. So let me come out with the truth in order to expose Linstedt to be as much as a liar as what Jesus claims in John 8:44. And make no mistake about it, Lindstedt is as evil as any jew.
As a good Christian woman, actively dedicated to the furtherance of the White Racialist Movement for close to 30 years, I'm here to tell you that there is no truth to any of what Lindstedt has posted here in his accusations. Now you have my word against his, but we hold ourselves accountable to a local CI community of several different fellowships and I have evidence and witnessness to disprove what he charges here. He does not know us, nor we him. I find it interesting that the men of these groups do not mind the lies and lewdness of this man.
In his 'UNIQUE' style, he continues to build on this story year after year so that it becomes more preposterous with each new embellishment, and then presents them 'to the world' as truth, as if it's some expose'. We've ignored him as long as we could, but this defamation and slander must be answered to.
Lindstedt to JDGrier on another board said: "Klunt even admitted that she snuck in a private message to you demanding censorship and publicly demanding censorship as well."
My Response to the JDGrier: You and I know and nowhere was it stated that I ever sent a private message to you. But Lindstedt will go on believing for YEARS thatI sent you a private message, AND … he'll elaborate on that as time goes on.
Another one of his `truths', Lindstedt says: "on their own little listserver ghettos where their MAIN TOPIC OF CONVERSATION is `Have you seen the awful things that Martin Lindstedt has been saying about us?"
My response: If you ever visited the groups we participate on, you will know that the MAIN TOPIC OF CONVERSATION is the same as most White Racialist groups and on not on what this perverted little man is saying about us.
The censorship happens when he shows his true colors in HOW he says what he is saying. The first post he put on JDGrier is what his fruits are all about. It's full of lies (and I'll remind you slander and defamation), pornographic lewdness and filth. Should that be allowed on Christian sites???? THAT sure sets a good example of what racialist Christianity is all about, huh??? I don't believe that for one moment, and either did the owners of the other Christian listservers. Hence his FILTH is censored.
I find it interesting that Seedliners allow this filth without taking Lindstedt to task for UNCHRISTLIKE behavior. The Christian men I learned from (Butler, Miles, Louis Beam, among many others) in 20+ years of being a Seedliner weren't anything like this. It was this ugly, unchristlike, unaccountable type of behavior exhibited by Lindstedt, Bob Jones, John Knight, Willie Martin that goes dishonorably unchastised by the supposed Christians in their listservers that opened my eyes to the type of men who were teaching AND following Seedline. And I turned my back on Seedline because of that.
So, it is time to expose what Lindstedt is saying here, although it is obvious he is doing it to draw us away from our work from God and to distract others from the important issues of White Racialism. The truth of the matter is that he has a private war going with those who do not adhere to the Seedline doctrine. This character admittedly gets PERSONAL information from 3rd sources (and possibly even more distant sources) and then he puts it all together as if it's fact, elaborating on it as time goes by. ANYONE who dares to disagree with him is put through the same grind of filthy name calling and innuendo presented as truth.
For the record, on MY personal situation, he likes to say he's got a whole slew people who have given him information. But, funny thing … he's never come to US asking US about the reliability of that information. He's never ONCE practiced Christian due process. He's gone to `several' Klansmen (and I find THAT quite interesting, because I know the history of Badynski's activism and the condition of the NW Knights' membership when I left Badynski). He's also found his sources in a few of the non Seedline group out here … for which there IS a handful of people here that was quite ticked off at Mark and other church members for holding a bad leader accountable for his unrepentant and overt sins. There WAS gossip about Mark and me from 2 women in that group of ticked off people, but when I heard about the gossip, I approached BOTH women in a Christlike manner and told them the chronology of events and reason I was compelled to leave Badynski.
Apparently, the men of Seedline want to believe the gossip of 2 women. So be it. I find that hilarious, given their propensity to discount and discredit women (especially those who act in a Christlike manner). My secular divorce was pursued ONLY after 2 years of attempts of reconciliation when I found Badynski had been having long-term promiscious internet relationships. I have several hundred e-mails to prove that little scandal. In that time I was counseled by SEVERAL elders, 3 pastors, 2 pastor's wives and 1 secular professional counselor. My secular divorce was pursued AFTER approval from all involved AND at Badynski's bidding. My courtship with Downey occurred AFTER the secular divorce was FINAL and it was done with much counseling, thought and prayer. If men and women don't understand that and wish two faithful servants of the Lord happiness, then that is their issue with God. But they will not be running MY life.
Now my word against Lindstedt's? Oh, you bet. But, accountability will remain where our Lord and Master is concerned. Lindstedt will have his day of judgment, and so will all the other men on these lists who have not taken him to task for his unchristlike actions. And I will continue to expose this filthy liar and challenge the TRUE MEN OF GOD to chastise his filth and unchristlike behavior.
Now, for a couple comments about his post. My comments are in all caps, not for yelling, but to differentiate his comments from mine.
From: "Martin Lindstedt" Date: Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:47 am Subject: Regarding Richard Niemela and sundry ZOGite baal-priestsFrom: To: mlindste@m... Cc: mlindste@j... Bcc: Subject: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:44:54 -0400
Downey and his current female fixture, Klunt, has the disadvantage of their past history of whore-dumb and mongering of said whore in that Klunt used to be the wife of the Washington State Grand Dragon and Downey stole the Klavern's sexual mascot, i.e., Klailiff, or as I call her, Klunt. So they don't play well amongst the locals who know their past history and took great care to inform myself and others within Identity, especially the Dual-Seedline variant, of the history of these Annaniasses and Sapphiras. So what they do is promulgate their bastardized version of what they call Identity
LYDIA: MY ANSWER TO YOU IS STATED ABOVE AS TO WHY MY DIVORCE WAS PURSUED AND MY ACTIONS TO RESOLVE MY MARITAL PROBLEMS. CONTINUE TO LIE ON YAHOO GROUPS AND IT WILL BE LABELED DEFAMATION.
Actually reading Downey's witless drivel, especially, 'Leaderless Identity,' one sees an immense Genesis 3:15-inspired hatred for Dual-Seedline orthodoxy since such has no place for the likes of Downey and Klunt. Yet Downey hates the One-Seedliners, like Pete Peters as well,
LYDIA: THE FRUIT OF HATRED COMES FROM YOU, BUDDY. MARK HAS FELLOWSHIPPED WITH SEEDLINERS FOR OVER 20 YEARS NOW. YOU HATE THE FACT HE DOESN'T TEACH IT.
because Peters is successful and has a following amongst the One- Seedliners, a following that Downey and Klunt shall never attain because of their open greed and avarice.
LYDIA: WHAT IS YOUR PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM OF OUR 'OPEN GREED AND AVARICE'? MAKE IT GOOD NOW, BUDDY.
consequently, they cannot and will not attend any One-Seedline gatherings where they are known & notorious.
LYDIA: AGAIN, LINDSTEDT, ANOTHER ARGUMENT BASED ON A BAD ASSUMPTION. BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE POSTING ON JDGRIER, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY REFERRING TO THE LAST VISIT BY PETERS. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CLUE WHY WE WEREN'T THERE, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ABOVE CHARGE.
I am not a pastor, I am a politician and enforcer. I do not prosletize for Dual-Seedline doxology. Yet I would insist that anyone calling themselves Identity practice Identity, preferably Dual-Seedline Orthodoxy.
--Martin Lindstedt A Defender of the (DS-CI) Faith
TO THE SMALL g god LINDSTEDT: YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT, AND I'LL BET YOUR RESPONSE WILL JUST BE THE FRUIT OF WHAT'S IN YOUR HEART AND WHAT YOU THINK A CHRISTLIKE MENTALITY IS: FILTH, LIES, PERVERSION.
YOUR LIES ARE HEREBY EXPOSED. I KNOW WHAT YOUR GAME IS, AND THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY JUDGED ME. WHATEVER EVIDENCE I BRING TO THIS WILL BE TWISTED AND DISCOUNTED AS YOU TRY TO TAKE MY TIME AWAY FROM GOD'S PURPOSE TO COUNTER YOUR SORRY, COUNTLESS LITTLE LIES. YOU HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH CHRISTIAN JURISPRUDENCE IN THIS WAR OF YOURS, AND FOR THAT YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
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Randy Gray's pal Hal Turner sent emails to the FEDS

2008-01-14T12:21:00.000-08:00

What a shock a friend of Randy Gray turned out to be working with FEDS. Randy himself, has posted other pro-white people's college information and home addresses on websites. In the past, Randy has stood arm and arm with Hal Turner. Below is proof of Hal, Gray's friend, leaking information to the FEDS.

Found on Pastebin
Yes, I am aware you no longer have the Blackberry and that you don’t have a server growing out of your ass.
I made the “you need to write me back” remark because after what I’ve done the past five days, some extremely powerful people are looking to jam me up. I intend to make certain I cross all the “T’s” and dot all the “i’s”.
The White House is livid over my interference with the President’s “legacy” immigration bill. My name was dropped in the Presidents ear by many Senators who laid blame for changing their vote on my act of “intimidation.” I have confirmation from more than one source that my name crossed shrub’s (Bush) lips several times about me being . . . . . ready for this . . . . . an “insolent mother fucker who dared to interfere.”
Things are going to get very serious for me over my single handedly stopping the immigration bill. I can;t let some asshole make an illegal threat on my web site, then get jammed up for “not reporting.”
Thank God some of the Marines at the White House feed me info. You’d be shocked what they hear standing there opening doors all day.
—– Original Message —–
From: “Haug, Stephen M.”
Date: Monday, July 2, 2007 7:23 am
Subject: RE: Threat to Kill Senator Feingold of Wisconsin on July 4
To: Hal Turner
> Got it thanks. I think you forget that I no longer have my
> blackberry and thus no real-time link to the email. I have to be
> logged on to a server to access it. As you know, I don;t have
> one growing out of my ass…Some emails require no comment…
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Hal Turner [mailto: \n secret12@optonline.net This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
> Sent: Sun 7/1/2007 4:53 PM
> To: \n shaug@fbi.gov This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ; Len Nerbetski
> Subject: Threat to Kill Senator Feingold of Wisconsin on July 4
>
>
> Guys:
> I wrote an opinion piece on my site today in which I opine about
> 46 US Senators who I believe should be removed from office on
> July 4 for betraying their constituents and this nation.
>
> An anonymous person, posting on the outside, third-party visitor
> comments area of my web site wrote:
>
> “im going to kill senator feingold on july 4th. may thomas
> paine smile upon me and alexander hamilton bless my cause.
> praise the lord and pass the ammunition.”
>
> As you are probably aware, Feingold is from Wisconsin.
>
> The posting was made today, July 1, 2007 at 4:34 PM EST from IP
> address 128.104.230.228 which comes back to the University of
> Wisconsin.
> The posting can be viewed by the general public at:
> http://www.haloscan.com/comments/halturner/FacingOffWith46/#236927
>
> Once again, my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a
> possible crazy.
>
> Please acknowledge receipt of this warning. Of late, both of
> you have become remiss in acknowledging e-mails.
>
> HT
>
>
>

Non-White allies of the Knights Party

2008-01-10T15:03:00.000-08:00

The above picture is that of Sonny Landham. He is of American Indian blood. His bio is here, http://www.sonnylandham.com/bio.cfm. Landham also made some porn movies back in the late 1970's. He is a current member for Gordon Baum's CCC.

Baum and his group are close friends of Thom Robb. Robb has been on their radio show in the past and has even allowed them to attend and speak at his railles.

When did the Klan become pro-non-white? When did the Klan tolerate porn stars? This never took place in Klan history until Thom Robb gave it the okay.

Yes ladies and gentleman, Thom Robb is allies with trash. Ex Asian porn stars are nice allies in the eyes of Thom Robb. And you still think Robb is a good Christian?

Owner of www.kkklan.com calls Thom Robb a conman

2008-01-10T10:32:00.000-08:00

1950's-90's
Calling card, large "KKK" in red. Solicits joining Thom Robb's "klan". Thom Robb is a notorious con artist who impersonates the Klan. ...www.kkklan.com/modern2.htm - 50k - Cached - Similar pages

Thom Robb's mentor - an odd ball Commie who hung out with Scientology people

2008-01-10T10:14:00.000-08:00

For years Thom Robb studied under the (ex)Commie, Kenneth Goff. This alone is enough proof of why Robb should never be trusted. Not only was Goff a commie, the man seemed to be very mentally ill. He claims to have wrote books that he had nothing to do with. Below is some fun facts about the mental state of this man. Taken from http://www.cesnur.org/2005/brainwash_13.htm.

Still mentioned today, and the subject matter of considerable controversy, is a document published in the 1950s, when, one after the other, several different editions were published of a book known as Brain-Washing: A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook of Psychopolitics. The book is, ostensibly, a summary of manuals circulating in the Soviet Union, allegedly written by the chief of the secret police, Lavrenti Beria (1899-1953).
The text opens with a discourse by Beria addressed to “American students at the Lenin University ”. It goes on by stating some key ideas of dialectical and historical materialism, before examining “psychopolitics” in itself. It suggests creating in the victims an “artificial exhaustion” through drugs and pain, before “implanting” communist doctrines through hypnosis. The process is presented under the name PDH, “pain-drug hypnosis”[1]. In the 1950s a frequent objection to brainwashing theories was that, according to academic hypnologists, ultimately an individual in hypnotic trance would not perform acts radically contrary to his or her will and best interests. The “Manual” claims that this objection in fact comes from communist propaganda: “It is in the interest of Psychopolitics that population be told that an hypnotized person will not do anything against his actual will, will not commit immoral acts, and will not act so as to endanger himself. While this may be true of light, parlour hypnotism, it certainly is not true of commands implanted with the use of electric shocks, drugs, or heavy punishment”[2]. The booklet then relates brainwashing to a larger picture, where two main dangers for the communists are indicated: American individualism (to be substituted, through brainwashing, by a form of group thinking), and religion.
The “Manual” was reprinted some twenty times, and quoted even more often; it played an important role in the discussion on brainwashing. The question of its authorship remains controversial. A curious character, Kenneth Goff (1909-1972), constantly claimed that he was the one who compiled it. Goff was a member of the U.S. Communist Party in the 1903s. He later converted to Fundamentalist Protestantism, only to evolve later towards anti-Semitism, neo-Nazism, and Identity Churches [3]. In the 1940s and 1950s Goff published several autobiographical books and pamphlets, where he graphically described both his conversion and his previous “conditioning” as an American communist by Soviet agents[4]. In 1955, the “Manual” (without mentioning Goff at all) was published by the Church of Scientology, with the indication “Published as a public service by the Church of Scientology”, and with an “editorial note” signed by a professor Charles Stickley, about whom no information is available (in all the other editions, there is also an “editorial note”, but Goff is indicated as its author)[5]. Both the early Goff edition, and the edition published by Scientology, include references to Christian Science and Dianetics as groups that Communist psychopolitics should try to discredit; the Goff version also includes Pentecostals, not mentioned in the Scientology edition.
Critics of Scientology have no doubt that the book was authored by Lafayette Ronald (“L. Ron”) Hubbard (1911-1986), the founder of both Dianetics and Scientology. For example, Bent Corydon is very positive when he claims, based on a statement by Hubbard’s son L. Ron Hubbard Jr. (Ron DeWolf, 1934-1991), that “Dad wrote every word of it”, having apparently been influenced by John Sanborn (1922-) who at the time assisted Hubbard in editing his works[6]. (Subsequently, DeWolf was to state under oath that Corydon had incorrectly quoted many of his statements.) This version has been repeated by countless anti-Scientology works, and has been even quoted as a “confession” by Hubbard that he did indeed know about brainwashing.
In fact, it is alleged by critics, Hubbard discussed brainwashing in several other works, thus “confessing” that he was capable of using it. The latter argument is somewhat contradictory. In fact, Hubbard’s works expose brainwashing as something that should not be practiced, not only for moral reasons, but also because, in Hubbard’s system, brainwashing represents all that Scientology regards as reprehensible and harmful in modern psychiatry. The practice of brainwashing could only end up in disaster, and convert those subject to it into pathetic victims, as such of no much use to any organization[7].
Scientology critics are often confusing two different meanings of the word “brainwashing”, the first referred to techniques using drugs and physical violence in connection with “hypnosis”, and the second to religious indoctrination. The word used, “brainwashing”, is the same, but the meaning is different. Hubbard regards “brainwashing”, in the first meaning, as something very much real (but to be avoided and exposed). In the second meaning, on the other hand, “brainwashing” for Hubbard is just another false argument used by critics in order to assault Scientology and other religions.
Be it as it may be, is Hubbard in any sense the “author” of the “Manual” as published by Scientology in 1955? It is true that the text does include a reference to Dianetics, and paragraphs germane to Scientology’s well-known concerns about psychiatry in general. Goff and his organization, the Soldiers of the Cross, always maintained that the compiler was none else than Goff himself, on the basis of information acquired when he was a Communist[8]. It is also true that what seems to be the earliest Goff edition of the “Manual” has no date[9], and there is no conclusive evidence of whether it had been published before, or after, Scientology’s edition of 1955. On the other hand, several themes about Communist “conditioning” were developed in works by Goff certainly published before 1955[10].
The argument used by some Scientology critics, that Goff died in 1943 (and could not have known about later development, nor as a consequence could he have written the book), is simply wrong. Goff remained active in the US right-wing subculture until the early 1970s, and in fact died in 1972. Those concluding that Goff is the “author” of the book should, on the other hand, face the objection that the style of the “Manual” is more sophisticated if compared with the somewhat crude style of Goff’s earlier works.
Hubbard’s version is told in two technical bulletins of 13 and 19 December 1955. According to the second bulletin, “two manuscripts” were “left at the front desk [of our Phoenix office] with the request that they be mailed back to their owner” (i.e. “Charles Stickley”), and “we are not sure exactly from whom these came”. Subsequently, according to the first bulletin, “it was discovered that a book called Psychopolitics (spelled with a K) is in the Library of Congress. It is in German. It was written by a man called Paul Fadkeller, and was published in Berlin in 1947. Although I may be misinformed, Hubbard goes on to say, and definitely do not read German, this book [the “manual”] is probably the Russian translation”. In the second bulletin, Hubbard also refers that he “read it off onto a tape, compiling the two manuals, and removing from them some of their very verbose nomenclature”. He decided to publish the text for the benefit of the auditors who may face victims of brainwashing[11].
“Paul Fadkeller” is, in fact, neo-Kantian German philosopher Paul Feldkeller (1889-1972). His text “published in Berlin in 1947” [12], a copy of which is in fact at the Library of Congress in Washington D.C., shares with the “Manual” only the first part of the title and the use (but with a quite different meaning) of the word “psychopolitics”. Hubbard’s story, apart form any controversy, is compatible with those who said that he, in fact, read the text onto a tape.
How, however, can Hubbard’s and Goff’s stories be reconciled? Perhaps, both may be right and combining their versions is not impossible. If one compares the “Manual” with the respective works of Hubbard and Goff (obviously, two very different authors), in both cases the style and the ideas are quite different[13]. It may perhaps be possible to solve this problem by suggesting, on the basis of the US government’s and the CIA’s interest in brainwashing in general in the 1950s, that the text was compiled by some governmental agency of the on the basis of a variety of sources (Soviet and US Communist documents, texts on psychopolitics in general, exposes of brainwashing allegedly practiced by both Nazis and Communists). This agency would then have sent the text more or less anonymously to several different organizations (Scientology, Goff’s group, and perhaps others), with sentences which would have captured their attention (including, for Scientology, a specific reference to Dianetics), in the hope that they will publish it[14]. This would confirm both the interest in brainwashing by the CIA and other U.S. governmental agencies during the Cold War and their dissemination of false documents about “Communist brainwashing” through a variety of sources.
[1] Brain-Washing: A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook of Psychopolitics, Los Angeles : The American St. Hill Organization, 1955, p. 36.
[2] Ibid., pp. 32-33.
[3] On Goff see the entry “Kenneth Goff” in Jeffrey Kaplan, Encyclopedia of White Power. A Sourcebook on the Radical Racist Right, Walnut Creek-Lanham ( Maryland )- New York - Oxford : Altamira Press, 2000, pp. 120-122.
[4] See, for example, Kenneth Goff, This is My Story: Confessions of Stalin’s Agent, Englewood ( Colorado ): The Author, 1948; Idem, The Red Betrayal of Youth, Englewood ( Colorado ): by the Author, 1948; Idem, Strange Fire, Englewood (Colorado): The Author, 1954.
[5] In 1970, Morris Kominsky (1901-1975), a left-wing activist and one-time candidate of the US Communist Party for governor of Rhode Island (in 1938), published a book whose intent was to expose the pathological anti-communism of the American right (The Hoaxers: Plain Liars, Fancy Liars, and Damned Liars, Boston: Branden Press, 1970). There, at pages 537-586, Kominsky published a detailed analysis of the “Manual”, whose aim was to show that it could not have been written in the Soviet Union. Kominsky had no doubt that the author was Goff, and published (ibid., pp. 547-549) the text of an interview with Goff himself. Goff claimed to have distributed 1,000 mimeographed copies of the “Manual” certainly before 1955, and even offered a $500 reward for any information about the mysterious Mr. Stickley.
[6] See Bent Corydon - L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman?, Lyle Stuart Inc., Secaucus (New Jersey) 1987, pp. 101-111.
[7] In another text by L.R. Hubbard, included in All About Radiation (Man’s Inhumanity to Man) by a nuclear physicist and a medical doctor, London : Hubbard Association of Scientologists International, 1957, pp. 62-63, brainwashing is again connected with “torture”, and it is stated that the Soviets knew it since 1927-1928. It is also noted that “brainwashing was attempted on Mindzensky [sic]. It didn’t work but, for a moment, he quivered and wavered at his trial” – a reference to Roman Catholic Hungarian Cardinal József Mindszenty (1892-1975). In a technical bulletin of July 22, 1956, Hubbard wrote that “We can brainwash faster that the Russians. 20 secs to total amnesia against three years to slightly confused loyalty” (Idem., The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology. Vol. II, 1954-1956, reprint, Copenhagen - Los Angeles : Scientology Publications, 1986, p. 474). The context, however, is an invitation to Scientology auditors to keep a higher moral standard, according to which not all what is technically possible should be practiced. However, in this case also, the effect of brainwashing is “total amnesia”, confirming that Hubbard used the work “brainwashing” with a meaning different from the prevailing literature of that time (“total amnesia” being something different from the conversion to new ideas).
[8] See Colonel Gordon “Jack” Mohr, “Editorial’s Note”, in the version he edited of Brain-Washing (Mind-Changing). A Synthesis of a Russian Textbook on Mass Mind-Control (Psychopolitics), Phoenix (Arizona): Lord’s Covenant Church-America’s Promise Broadcasts, 1982, pp. 4-5. Mohr, who was close to Goff for several years and part of the same subculture, is still certain to this date that “Hubbard did not write the book” (letter by G.J. Mohr to M. Introvigne, June 5, 2001).
[9] See K. Goff, Brainwashing. A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics, Englewood (Colorado): Kenneth Goff, n.d.
[10] See for example K. Goff, This is My Story. Confessions of Stalin’s Agent, op. cit.
[11] L. Ron Hubbard, The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology. Volume II: 1954-1956, reprint, op. cit., pp. 309-310 and pp. 312-313. In Corydon’s book, L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman?, op. cit., p. 103, there is an allusion to the Feldkeller reference as follows: “Ron Jr.: (…) Years later, they [the Scientologists] snuck it into the Library of Congress, and somebody else came by, and said ‘Oh, look, it was found in the Library of Congress!’, which is a lot of baloney”. The problem here, however, is that the Library of Congress does not own either the Scientology or the Goff version of the “Manual”. It owns, on the other hand, the work by Feldkeller, quite well-known by the scholars of this German philosopher, and by no means “snuck” by Scientologists into the Library.
[12] See also Idem., Psycho-Politik. Zur Demokratisierung, politischen Erziehung und Säuberung, Berlin : Chronos-Verlag, 1947, where at pp. 106-110 there is a definition of “Psychopolitics”, quite different from the one found in the “Manual”.
[13] Some have remarked that «pain-drug hypnosis» and at least one other expression, «thinkingness,» are only found in the «Manual» and in Scientology publications. «Pain-drug hypnosis» is mentioned only in the «Manual,» in Scientology works, and in Goff (after the 1950s): but did Hubbard and Goff derived it from the «Manual» or viceversa? For «thinkingness,» however, there are pre-Hubbard precedents. On the other hand, L. R. Hubbard's position on hypnosis in his 1951 Science of Survival. Simplified, Faster Dianetic Techniques (Hubbard Dianetic Foundation, Wichita 1951, pp. 223-224) was the exact opposite of the Manual's: «an individual in an hypnotic trance will rarely perform an immoral act even though commanded to do so by the hypnotist, unless that individual would normally perform such acts.»
[14] The argument on which Hubbard's critics insist, that having received the tract from the Church of Scientology, the FBI suspected its authenticity, is not very telling, for often the FBI was not kept informed of CIA or military services projects in this or other fields.

Lies on the Members only site

2008-01-05T12:24:00.000-08:00

Read the below data -

National Campaigns - David Marston - NC has been asked by HQ to coordinate Knights Party media campaigns and to work on behalf of HQ directly with associates. As it states in the Knights Party Handbook (available to Knights - this outlines our third party strategy - if you have ever wondered why we don't run candidates you need to get this handbook) the first and most important aspect of any political campaign is name recognition and a solidifying of our beliefs among the general public.

There is no David Marston. His real name is David Barnett. Yes, once again the Knights' Party lies about members who don't exist. David is some middle age man who spends all his free time hanging out with boy scouts in North Carolina.

Randy Gray shows a sign of mental illness on ANSWP radio

2008-01-05T11:19:00.000-08:00

http://youtube.com/watch?v=H280kApBhn0

Yes people, this is the Klan of today. This is the "leadership" of the Knights' Party. Listen and laugh until you cry.

Back in 08

2008-01-05T11:16:00.000-08:00

I am sorry I've been slow with updating this site. Don't worry, we will expose the Knights' Party in 08 just as much as we did in 07. Thanks for all the feedback. I knew people would enjoy this site however, I never saw the overall fan base being as strong as it was. Thanks for all the help to those out that who sent information to us.

Five Lies at www.kkk.com: Part II

2007-11-25T21:25:00.000-08:00

1-It has long been the belief of Pastor Robb that the Klan needed to get back into the political scene.

Really? Robb has been in charge since 1989. Can he provide a list of all his members who have ran for public office? I can answer that for you. No. His group is nothing more than a mailing list of suckers who donate to him monthly.

2- A. Become the leader of the White racialist movement
Through a strong organized show of leadership

Yes, the drunks like Bobby Malick and Andy Haskins. What a "strong" leadership they are.

3-Unit Recruiter - A Man or woman who has obtained the rank of Knight can apply by way of application to be a unit recruiter. A minimum of a high school diploma or G.E.D. is required.

Explain Randy Gray then.(high school drop out)

4- The highest rank is that of Knight . Not everyone seeks to earn that position as it is reserved for only the most dedicated and loyal.

Cough, cough. Actually, you buy and pay for your rank as you go.

5- Mr. Robb has been a powerful spokesman the past 30 years for the white rights movement.

What has Robb done in the past 10-15 years? Ask yourself the following -

1) Where was Robb at speaking out against the Jena 6?

2) Where was Robb at in Knoxville?

3) Where was Robb at during the Norfolk attack?

4) Where was Robb at during the Tony Finch trial?

He was too busy doing nothing. What a "leader".

Knights' Party - Making people pay for information

2007-11-24T18:07:00.000-08:00

Take a look at this http://www.christianconcepts.net/information_pack_contains.htm. The Knights' Party charge $5.00 for "information". Nearly 90% of this same crap can be found at their website. What a scam!!

Most groups will send you information for free. Look at the ANSWP for instance. They send people free magazines for free. And no, not a back cover like the Knights' Party who charges for a back cover. They will send you an entire magazine for free. I recently wrote the BOK and they too sent me a free information packet. If those two groups can do that, why can't the Knights' Party?

They are "America's Largest Pro-White" group as they claim. They should have tons of money to send free sample copies then. Then again, we know all of that to be lies. What another Jewish rip off by these con-men.

Knights' Party - ripping people off by selling Klan Robes

2007-11-24T12:34:00.000-08:00

Like Jews, the Knights' Party love to rip their membership off. I was taking a look at some paperwork I had gotten while a member myself. I also took a look over their members Only Site at http://www.theknightsparty.com/. They charge $130 and up for a Klan Robe. What a rip off.

You can e-mail the owner of http://www.kkklan.com/ and ask for his pricing. He sells his robes for $85. And they are the same exact robes! If he can sell them that cheap, why do the Knights' Party sell them for nearly $50 more? Easy, they pocket the rest of the extra cash. Other words, they screw you!

Even the people at Rebware(http://rebware.biz/) sell their robes cheaper than the Knights' Party. And they make the best robes on the market. Again, if they can make robes that cheap, why can't the Knights' Party?

This is just another scam created by the Knights' Party. People, how many lies do I need to point out until you wake up? These people call themselves Christians and yet, lie over and over again. If this is our last hope in America we are screwed.

Knights' Party - Their love of booze

2007-11-22T23:50:00.000-08:00

The Knights Party claim to be "Christian". Their leader, Thom Robb, claims to be a "real man" of God. Sometimes we are unclear on who this "god" is.

Listen, I know many people who drink. I have no issue with that. But, there is a different of drinking and being a drunk. Drunks are people who let drinking take over their lives. They miss work due to drinking. They abuse their wives due to drinking. They mistreat their children due to drinking. Some even kill people due to drinking. These people are known as "Drunks".

As a Christian, drunks can never be tolerated. You would think the Knights Party would believe the same. However, they seem to turn a blind eye on drunken membership. This is a fact they cannot deny.

Up until around 2005 or so, Bobby Malick was part of their "HQ" staff. Bobby was a known drunk. He was known to drink Moonshine, Whiskey and Vodka. Even during the Knights' Party annual Klan Congress, Bobby would attend drunk. Did the Knights' Party kick him out? Not even close! He is still an active member. And they are Christians? Did Thom-boy miss the part of drunkenness being a sin in the Bible while attending Bible college?

Their Indiana leader, Andy Haskins, took drinking to a whole new level. Haskins took a job as a truck driver in early 2006. He was caught drunk while behind the wheel. Haskins was arrested and charged with a felony. You can easily search his public records for the proof. Again, is this Christian behaviour?

Now, we cannot confirm the next person as being a drunk. But ex members of the Knights Party who belong to the IKA, BOK, Empire Knights, Bayou Knights, and National Knights all have reported Rachel Pendergraft, Thom Robb's daughter is also a drunk. Now, we have no proof of this and nor are we claiming this to be fact. However, isn't it odd that she being in charge of membership does nothing while members are known drunks? Very odd if you ask me. To be honest, I wouldn't doubt if the claims about her are true. It makes perfect sense. We have been told Rachel has a lust for Crown Royal Whiskey and Bud Light.

Fake Members who don't exist - more lies from the "Christian" Leadership of the Knights' Party

2007-11-22T00:17:00.000-08:00

For Christians, these people sure lie a lot. Since the Knights’ Party is a dying breed, they make up fake members. I feel bad for the new people who do sign up for the Knights. They are going to send you information with lies. Many of you will even get letters signed by “fake people” who don’t exist. And yet, the ‘Christian Leadership” of the Knights will send this false information to you.

Any Knights’ Party members out there reading this? If so, please answer this question to yourself. Have you ever gotten a letter from any of the following people or seen their name on the Crusader?

1 – Cynthia O’Grady

2 – Paul Jefferson

3- Paul Shepard

When I joined, I got a letter signed by Mrs. O’Grady. Did you know none of the above three people exist? However, the “Christian Leadership” of the Knights’ Party claim them do. Not only that, they claim they work at their National HQ. All lies!

Now, ask yourself this second question. Have you attended any of their events such as Klan Congress, their Christmas function or their Walk for White Pride? If so, have you ever met any of the above three people? I know for a fact you have not? And you know why? They don’t exist! You have a better chance of meeting a Zombie then these three made up characters.

Ask yourself this third question. Why would “Christians” lie about such nonsense? Easy, they are frauds.

Pastor Visser Speaks out on Mark and Debbie Downey of the Knights' Party

2007-11-18T23:10:00.000-08:00

None of this was written by the staff here at Christian Frauds. This information was written by Pastor Visser. His website(which I hope you will read over) can be found at http://cpm.freehostia.com/.

A Seedliner asked: Why did Jezebel finally ban you? Over doctrine?

Seedliner,This is a question I had hoped wouldn’t show up here as I cared less about being “banned” from such an antichristian forum in the first place. However, since certain self-professed “children of Satan” have decided to slander me while I’m unable to defend myself I suppose a few words of clarity are in order. Like Clifton Emahiser, Pete Peters or anyone else who believes in a literal Satan, I also have gone the same route of having my hands tied behind my back by the jew while they tirelessly slander me behind my back. It’s no surprise, really – by their “fruits” you know them.This brings me to addressing certain lies that have been stated about me this week:First and foremost – Klaliff never once “put her reputation on the line to get Visser back here” as she’s recently stated.

If Debra Downey had any bearing in my short return to Stormfront then it’s certainly the first time I’ve ever heard of it. In fact, had such a woman with questionable morals even asked me if she could’ve spoken for me I would’ve declined the offer (more on this later). The first time I was actually banned by Grand Inquisitor for making death threats towards jews and pagans but allowed back on the boards after promising to never make the same “mistake [sic] again.” It was due to countless phone calls that I made on my own behalf that I was allowed to return to the Christian Identity sub forums at Stormfront. No more, no less.Secondly, I was banned this second (and final) time for simply holding a different opinion on doctrine. After releasing Judaism Has No Devil I was met with demerit points by Klaliff on EVERY SINGLE post I made (irregardless of content). After reminding her that I once again desired a debate with her effeminized “husband” (more on this later) for his recent attacks on Clifton Emahiser I was told by private message that my “type of Satan-worshipping tripe was no longer welcome at Stormfront.” Not the CI sub forums – Stormfront, period. Hell hath no fury like a whore who’s power-tripping.

Finally, after pointing out that the Bible considers women who leave their husband for another man as an adulteress (Romans 7:2-3) I was quickly banned, had my website removed from the “CI Link List” thread and had my last twenty-or-so posts deleted in the hopes that nobody would notice. Naturally, the e-mails began to pour in and numerous other WN message boards picked up the story on their own.Now, for what “really” lead up to my banning:On April 20th (Hitler’s birthday) I received an e-mail from Debra Downey claiming that Mark had “beaten her severely” and threw her “out on the street with her two cats.” She claimed she had nowhere else to go and asked if I might be able to help her out with shelter or possibly money for a bus ticket back to Washington State. After e-mailing her for more information, in her next e-mail (which she claimed she was writing from a public library) she explained that Mark Downey had been in correspondence with both the ADL and SPLC and doing his part in trying to destroy seedline ministries. She even claimed she was against such actions and this lead to their domestic dispute.Naturally, I smelled a rat but it wasn’t Mark Downey as I’ve always figured he was a ZOG agent (at least pro-jewish doctrinally) – the rat I smelled was Debra Downey herself. As I figured it was a trap I never responded to her second e-mail and less than a week later I was banned without further explanation.The fact of the matter is I feel I was banned for teaching what Wesley Swift, Richard Butler, Ray Redfeairn, Pete Peters and practically every other Christian Identity adherent has taught – seedline. It’s from this seedline doctrine that we derive the term “Christian Identity” and my banning has certainly opened many eyes to the double-standard and continual man-bashing going on by Mark Downey’s makeshift “wife.” Support for CPM has actually INCREASED in spite of my banning (which is how it was the initial time) and because of the enormous loss of time posting over there I’m choosing not to even bother requesting “re-instatement.”

I simply have no desire to be coached and ruled over by a whorish woman who’s living in sin with her makeshift pastor.Speaking of which, several months ago Mark Downey had even contacted me desiring to be ordained because my “ordination was only thrice removed from Wesley Swift.” When I told him it would be degrading to the memory of Swift, Butler and Morris Gullet to ordain a non-seedliner he went on the warpath attempting to discredit ALL seedliners. Both he and his lover began continually attacking seedline even though it’s taught in the Bible, the prophet Enoch and the early church fathers. To them, I became the enemy when I changed my signature to “War for Christ.” To them, I became a threat to their teaching that their own flesh IS Satan (even though I believe that they’re both wicked). This seems to be a continual cycle with them both as they’ve done similarly to CSCS, numerous Yahoo message boards and of most recently – Clifton Emahiser himself.There’s a lot more to tell but I honestly hope I never have to. While I assume their only option will be to state that I’m “slandering” it should be stated that I never believed EITHER of their bogus stories.

I would never ordain an obvious snake like Mark Downey nor would I open my home to an adulteress (much less allow her to usurp position over me as Mark seemingly has). I simply have much more Biblical wisdom than that – there ARE NO non-seedline Klansmen, lol.Be sure to read my recent series on angels – it’s my hope that by studying each particular angel the reality of Satan (the fallen one) will eventually take focus. Many have been lead aside by the imposters and CI false prophets MUST give the appearance that they’re Christian – that snake is right here in our midst. Truthfully, I’ll be the first to behead such pitiful abominations when given my chance.More about Kluntliff here.Up the Irons and War MORE for Christ,

This made the staff here at Christian Frauds laugh

2007-11-18T22:54:00.001-08:00

Taken from http://www.kkk.com/ -

2007 National Christmas Fellowship Conference
December 1st and 2nd
at the White Christian Revival Center at Harrison, AR
Speakers, holiday banquet, Heritage Connection band, Children's activities including cookie decorating, games, and Bible lessons -meet wonderful Christian families who share your concerns. Motels nearby, white heritage books and souvenirs available. All White Christian patriots invited.

Staff - Wonderful Christians? Now that is too funny. Yes, people who lie and lie as we've proven so many times here at Christian Frauds. For those who don't know, 12-15 people at best normally show up for this event. Don't forget, this is "America's Largest Pro-White Organization".

Knights' Party Lie about Membership Size

2007-11-16T22:35:00.000-08:00

For Christians, these people lie a lot. Is Thom Robb Jewish? I am starting to wonder with all the lies I see coming from this group. Here is what they claim at http://www.kkk.com/ - "America's Largest White Organization". Really?

The truth is - Today, they're in paltry eighth place, out of 34 Klan organizations, with six chapters. Taken from Mark Potok of the SPLC.

Staff - We hate to quote Mark Potok, but he is actually right here for the most part. Actually, three of the "chapters" aren't even chapters. Potok still list for instance, the Knights' Party in Fairdale, KY. That unit no longer exists. Two other units aren't even units. The Newport, TN unit is nothing more than a website. The unit in Concord, AR is also a fake. It's one guy - Richard Hensely.

Like always, the leadership of the Knights' Party lies. How dare they claim to be the largest pro-white group when they aren't even the largest KKK group.

Jessica Gray - a "Christian" woman that lies

2007-11-16T22:33:00.000-08:00

Many times in the past, I've read so many lies on various forums by Jessica Gray. A while back on VNN she claimed she did not know who Andy Haskins was.

Now, I find this funny for a few reasons -

1) First off, her husband is good friends with him

2) Second, her husband helped get him his truck driving job

3) Third, how does Jessica explain the above picture of her husband standing next to Andy Haskins?

Amazing that Jessica doesn't know Andy. I mean, she took the picture of her husband standing next to him and Michael Burks.

From left to right as follows - Michael Burks, Randy Gray (Jessica's husband) and Andy Haskins - the man she claims she doesn't know.

Jessica calls herself a Christian and lies about something so dumb. Yes, this is the typical membership of the Knights' Party - losers.

HQ Staffer Richard Hensley lies on the Members Only Forums

2007-11-15T12:31:00.000-08:00

Some poor fool recently became a lifetime member of the Knights' Party. He posted this on their members only forum. Below is the lie by golfball whose real name is Richard Hensley.

golfballJoined: 10 Jun 2005Posts: 1212Location: Cleburne County, Arkansas
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Congratulations! I am a lifetime associate as well because our activism will continue even after we win. Our pro-racial political message helps whites to see that non-whites push their racial agenda daily and have not displayed any signs of ceasing.

Staff - Activism? What do the Knights' Party do besides a public access show that 5-10 people watch and their short-wave radio show that 12 non-English speaking farmers pick up in Albania?

1) Where were the Knights' Party during Knoxville? (no show)

2) Where were the North Carolina members at during the Tony Finch Case? (no show)

3) Where were the Knights' Party at during Jena 6? (no show)

4) Where were the Knights' Party at during the black gang attack in Norfolk, VA? (no show)

Activism? What is Richard talking about? Letting non-whites join? Allowing my buddy's dog to join?

If that is how you define activism, then yes, the Knights' are number one in doing nothing useful for our race. Everyone, please clap for them. They are, "The Last Hope for America".

Mark Downey admits he has no support - nobody supports the Knights' Party

2007-11-11T21:41:00.000-08:00

It seems to be a trend among members of the Knights' Party to have trouble recruiting new members. While groups like the BOK and ANSWP grow and grow, the Knights' Party are dying out day by day. This was taken from http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/kentucky-white-pride-events-428548.html.

Mark "pastor" Downey admits no one attends his "church" services. Too funny.

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Re: Kentucky white pride events
I moved to Kentucky about two years ago from Washington state where we had a Christian Identity church and had organized many many events over the years (some of which were political through the old Populist Party and in more recent years affiliated with Thom Robb's Knights Party). I would like to organize similar events here in Kentucky, but since I've been here, there's been little interest from WN's in attending our weekly church services, which are also a vehicle for public activism. I'm not sure if the people in this neck of the woods are just looking for beer and entertainment or if they have a desire to effectively organize, which means rolling up your sleeves and doing some work. If I can't get people interested in the little things, what is it going to take to do something like a large conference with speakers and amenities? What are people in KY really looking for? Back in Washington I organized an Aryan Film Festival which was very successful (and all the popcorn you could eat); we've hosted dinner engagements with well know racialists such as Richard Kelly Hoskins, Everett Siliven, Alan Campbell (from Ireland), James Townsend, David Irving, Don Wassel, David Duke, Jack Mohr, Bo Gritz, Michael A. Hoffman, Thom Robb and many more. Organizing these kind of events takes a lot of time and energy. I'd like to hear from people in this area if they would attend something that requierd them to perhaps travel more than 50 miles and spend perhaps $50 or more in expenses (gas, food, lodging). That's the bottom line these days folks. What are you willing to do to make it happen?

Five Lies at www.kkk.com - Part 1

2007-11-10T12:02:00.000-08:00

1-NO Longer Will The Knights Settle for OUT-DATED Klan Rallies Ignored by The Media!

Staff - The Knights Party will do nothing. That is their method of being ignored by media.

2 - WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY TO FIGHT FOR WHITE RIGHTS

Staff- By doing a public access show that nobody watches.

3 - THE KNIGHTS IS LEADING THE WAY

Staff- How? By promoting high school drop outs and drunks as state leaders?

4 - We want our Klansmen and Klanswomen to live their lives as honorable, decent, dignified white people.

Staff - If that was true, why have you all had NEGRO members in the past?

5 - To earn these higher ranks requires activity and study. At all times the staff at headquarters will be there to guide and assist you. After you have proven yourself to be a committed Knight you can become "naturalized" at the annual National Klan Congress in Harrison, Arkansas which is held on Labor Day weekend each year. (Note: this is NOT an initiation, but rather a solemn and memorable Christian ceremony conducted by National Director Pastor Thomas Robb)

Staff - Not true. You buy rank. Tests? Sure you all take tests...

Buy your rank

2007-10-29T07:47:00.000-07:00

The Knights' Party sells people their rank. I want to repeat that for you. The Knights' Party sells people their rank.

When you join the Knights' Party, you pay $35 up front. You are given the title, "Klansman". After that, you pay for all advancement.

1) After being "accepted" as Klansman/woman, the scam begins. No one is ever denied membership into the Knights. As this blog has proven, FBI agents, reporters and blacks have all been members in the past. My friend's dog is a current member also. (we will have this story at a later date)

2) The next rank you pay for is Page. You send $15 in and they send you three cd's/tapes. You then take "tests". Of course no one ever fails these "tests". You pay, you pass.

3) After that you pay another $21 for the rank of Squire. The Knights' Party then sends you three books. You must again, take some "tests". Again, you pay, you pass.

4) The next rank is Knighthood. You pay another $15 and they send you a $3 handbook and some questions. Again, you pay, you pass.

5) After reaching Knighthood, one can apply and become a recruiter. You pay another $30 and get another $3 handbook with "information". Again, they pass all people willing to waste the money.

You may say the tests are legit. No, they aren't and that is simple to prove. People like Randy Gray and Andy Haskins passed them. Gray is a high school drop out who can barely complete a sentence. Haskins is a drunk who spent time in jail for DUI charges.

Folks, this is White Christian America? If so, our race is screwed. If we can't do better than these frauds, why try?

Meet the newest member of the Knights' Party a dog

2007-10-29T05:56:00.000-07:00

Michael Burks and I wanted to prove that the Knights' Party is a fraud. We tell people they have no standards for membership. On VNN, Randy Gray and his wife Jessica, have claimed Burks is nothing but a liar. We easily proved them wrong.

Thom Robb is not a leader. He is nothing more but a con-man, trying to make a quick dollar. He allows ANYONE to pay and join online via credit card. He does not do background checks. As you have already seen proven here, blacks, reporters and FBI agents have all joined.

I would like you to know, so has my buddy's dog. We even signed him up under a famous rock star's name and Thom Robb and Rachel Pendergraft didn't seem to notice. Well, all they cared about was the $35 they got.

Please, don't worry. Burks has promised his dog is doing a great job. This dog believes in white power and only barks at Jews and other non-whites. Burks also makes him listen to white power music. I may sign my cat, goldfish and bird up. That way Kentucky can have a brand new Knights' Party unit.

So listen here boy, this dog bone is on me. Keep up the good fight. You are the "last hope for America". Nothing makes me feel safer than knowing you are serving the future of our white children.

PS - WHEN YOU JOIN THE KNIGHTS' PARTY, YOU GET A PASSWORD FOR THEIR MEMBERS ONLY FORUM. SINCE PEOPLE LIKE RANDY GRAY CLAIM WE ARE LIARS, WE HAVE CUT AND PAST SOME RECENT POSTS FROM THEIR MEMBERS ONLY FORUM TO PROVE THAT A DOG IS A MEMBER OF THE KNIGHTS' PARTY.

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FBI agent joined the Knights' Party - cost KKK state trooper his job

2007-10-27T15:59:00.000-07:00

Back in late 2004, some guy from Kansas named Dane joined the Knights' Party. Since the Knights' won't do background checks, they had no clue on who this fraud is. Dane turned out to be an FBI agent. He leaked information about a state trooper which cost the man his job.

A simple background check would have caught this problem. Thom Robb doesn't care. Send money in and you are accepted for membership. Pay for rank, you get promoted. Below is the story. Taken from http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2379954&page=1.

Controversy Erupts After Ex-KKK State Trooper Gets Reinstated
The State of Nebraska Will Appeal Ruling to Reinstate Trooper Who Joined KKK, White Supremacist Group
Nebraska State Patrol trooper Robert Henderson was fired after admiting he joined the KKK.

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"A racist cop? I am shocked. SHOCKED!" writes another.
"Since 1871, the US has designated the KKK as a 'violent, terrorist organization.' But so is the state of Nebraska, for the most part," concludes yet another.
The furor followed a decision by an arbitrator who ordered the Nebraska State Patrol to reinstate Trooper Robert Henderson, 50, of Omaha, an 18-year veteran of the force.
He was fired in March after admitting he had been a KKK member and had made postings on the White Knights' members-only Web site since June 2004 while off-duty.
According to the arbitrator's report, Henderson said he had joined the Ku Klux Klan for two reasons: His wife had "divorced him for a minority" and the KKK had given him an avenue to vent his frustration.
However, the arbitrator's ruling said the Nebraska State Patrol had failed to demonstrate why Henderson posed a threat to the public or the patrol.
While the arbitrator said he shared "the disgust" the patrol has in Henderson's decision to align himself with white supremacist organizations, he said that his decision was based only on law and that in this case, the State Patrol had failed to prove that Henderson's termination was justified under the terms of the collective-bargaining agreement.
Public employees have broad protections when it comes to free speech and their political beliefs.
Because the State Patrol said that Henderson did nothing wrong on the job, the arbitrator said, Henderson's firing violated his right to free speech.
That decision did not sit well with Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning.
He has filed a motion to vacate the arbitrator's decision.
"We don't want this person on the staff [of the Nebraska State Patrol]," he said. "We don't want the agency destroyed by a racist like Bob Henderson."

Randy Gray - the lack of a GED shows

2007-10-24T16:04:00.000-07:00

(Gray is seen here yelling at the hot dog stand guy not to leave just yet)

In years gone by, the Klan was made up of great men. Today, we have high school drop outs like Randy Gray. Here he admits the Knights' Party does not do background checks. Taken from VNN.

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Thom Robb is a coward - Won't fight for free white speech

2007-10-22T08:29:00.000-07:00

Robb claims to be a leader of the pro-white movement and yet, he drops a lawsuit over free speech.

Take from the Rhino Times - http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/1editorialbody.lasso?-response=%2f1editorialbody.lasso&-token.folder=2007-10-11&-token.story=164484.112113&-token.subpub=&-nothing&-token.feedbackmsgstat=Success&-token.feedbackmsg=Your%20submission%20has%20been%20received.%20Your%20submission%20will%20be%20reviewed%20by%20our%20staff%20before%20appearing%20on%20the%20Web%20site.&-token.checkpermission=8cc541befcd6d5c6e32920cd7da3bfdeb2b142436a0f7941#feedback

October 11, 2007The Knights of the Ku Klux Klan have promised to do what they can to keep people from using The Rhino Times, or any other newspaper, to distribute their hate-filled, despicable, racist, contemptible, cheap, tawdry newsletter. In return for that The Rhinoceros Times has agreed to drop its lawsuit against the Knights of the KKK for restraint of trade and attempting to sully our good name.The Rhino Times was represented by Seth Cohen of Smith, James Rowlett & Cohen.Thomas Robb, the national director of the Knights Party came from Arkansas with his son, who is an attorney, for the mediation last Friday. It's hard to imagine in 2007 that people like Robb are still out there preaching that certain groups of people are bad simply based on the color of their skin or their racial heritage. The Knights Party, or the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, claims to represent the essence of the first KKK, which was known for lynching and torture.The Rhino Times filed a lawsuit against the Knights of the KKK because for years someone has been taking pages of The Rhino Times and wrapping them around Knights Party fliers and then putting the fliers in plastic bags used to deliver newspapers and throwing them in people's driveways and yards. Most people in Greensboro find having a Knights of the KKK flier in their yard annoying. Many people assumed that because pages from The Rhino Times were in the bag that we either supported the Knights of the KKK or sold them advertising. We oppose just about everything the Knights of the KKK stands for and believe the world would be a much better place if rattlesnakes, yellow jackets, poison ivy and the Knights of the KKK didn't exist. We would never knowingly sell advertising space to an organization such as the Knights of the KKK and did everything we could to keep the organization from using our newspaper as a method to deliver its filth.Because the Knights of the KKK refused to do anything to prevent people from using The Rhino Times to help distribute their racist flier, we filed suit.All we ever requested from the Knights of the KKK was that they stop using The Rhino Times and other newspapers to distribute their racist material.The Knights in the settlement agreed not only to "discourage and take reasonable actions" to prevent their newsletter or any other newsletter from being distributed by the Knights from being placed inside "The Rhino Times or any other newspaper in that this could give the false impression that The Rhino Times and the Knights Party are associated with each other, which they are not."The Knights also agreed to drop the appeal of its lawsuit against The Rhino Times in Arkansas. The Rhino Times won dismissal of that suit in court but the Knights appealed that decision.The Rhino Times lawsuit against the Knights was dismissed without prejudice, which means that if The Rhino Times is used to distribute the Knights newsletter, The Rhino Times can simply file the same lawsuit.The Knights have to be worried that other newspapers that have similar problems will also file lawsuits against the Knights of the KKK and it will be spending a lot of time and money simply defending itself in court. It would be great if other newspapers would follow The Rhino's lead, but, as far as we have been able to determine, although using newspapers to distribute the Knights of the KKK newsletter is a common practice.

News reporter joins the Knights' Party - exposed one of their local Kansas members

2007-10-19T10:34:00.000-07:00

To the left is Peter Rugg. He writes for the Kansas Pitch. The Pitch is owned by some dyke and is very Jew friendly.

Rugg joined the Knights' Party by using a fake name. This happens a lot when you deal with the Knights' Party. A simple background check would have stopped this. Thom Robb does not care about you or the future of your children. He only cares about the monthly checks that people send in.

Not only did Rugg join, but he exposed a local member. This has led to death threats toward this member and his family. And what did Thom Robb do? Nothing. He is not a leader. Robb does not care about his people. As long as you send money in, anyone can join. Like you have seen here already, the Knights' have had black state leaders in the past. Here is the story that Rugg wrote on the Knights. Read closely. He proves how fake this Klan group is.

Full Story at http://www.pitch.com/2007-09-27/news/my-secret-life-in-the-klan

Dorm Room Project - A fraud set-up by National HQ

2007-10-14T12:51:00.000-07:00

Since 2003, the Knights' Party has been collecting funds for a dorm room. They claim they are building this for members who show up at events who are short with money. For $350 you can buy a brick with your name on it to help with the funding.

A buddy of mine went to the most recent Klan congress this year. He counted 47 bricks. That equals $16,450 worth of funds. That is a lot of cash. However, there is no evidence of a dorm room being built. So, where did this money go?

Well, I can tell you. Jason Robb is divorcing his wife and having a custody battle against her. They are using this money to pay his court/lawyer fees. Other words, they are misusing the funds. This method among the Knights' Party is nothing new for them. Since the days of Duke, movement funds have been misused by their leadership. In 1979, Duke was caught selling his membership list on film to an FBI agent.

Thom Robb claims to be a "man of God". I am not sure what "god" this is. The God of Christians is not a liar nor a thief. The Knights' Party are not Christians. They are nothing more than a cult. A cult that uses their membership and steals from them.

Fake Units of the Knights' Party

2007-10-13T11:08:00.000-07:00

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is a group of anti-racist gay Jews. They are led by Morris Dees, a known child molester.

In the past they have been caught making up fake white power units on their "hate map". As of 10-13-07, I found three fake units of the Knights' Party that don't exist. Sadly, the leadership of the Knights' Party lies about these units also. We would expect these lies from Jews. However, the Knights' Party claim they are Christians and they lie right along side the Jews - Go figure.

Let's start with the "unit" listed in Fairdale, KY. That unit was led by my friend Michael Burks. It was their most active unit from 2005-2007 (early 2007). Burks quit this scam back in February. There is no unit in Fairdale. When Burks quit, so did Graham Wright, Jacob Osbourne, Glen Marney and Jeff Kotter. The Knights' Party of Kentucky died out the day Michael Burks quit. Yet, the HQ of the Knights' claim they have members in all 50 states. Sure they do.

Click on Tennessee. The Knights' Party is listed in Newport, TN. There is no unit there and there never was a unit. Randy Gray once lived there. He is so lazy and dumb he hasn't recruited the first member of a unit, besides his overweight wife. He left Newport about 4 years ago for Michigan. There is a website for Newport, TN Klan but no actual unit. Too funny how the Knights' use a crappy website as proof of a fake unit.

Now go to Arkansas. Do you see the unit for Concord, AR? That is no unit. That is one guy, Richard Hensley. He has no unit. And never will run a unit. Again, one person is not a unit. And yet, the Knights' Party claim they have units all over America. Where? Where are they? They have none. They are nothing more then a group of 80-90 losers who don't do anything useful for our people, besides lie to your face.

How dare such liars claim to be Christians. Christians do not lie to other whites. This is just more proof of how much of a fraud the Knights' Party is.

Former state leader of the Knights' Party - Black as the Ace of Spades

2007-10-12T19:29:00.000-07:00

The leadership of the Knights' Party didn't become frauds overnight. Since the days of David Duke, they have been ripping people off.

Did you know the Knights' Party had a Black leader during the days of Duke? How did this happen? Simple, the leadership didn't care. All they cared about what cashing his membership due checks. Think about that for a second... would you support or join a group that doesn't meet with its state leaders? Or even cares to check them out? What does this say about this group who calls themselves, 'White Christians"?

Taken from http://playahata.com/hatablog/?p=1204.

By Deborah Bulkeley Deseret Morning News About 25 years ago, Ron Stallworth was asked to lead the Ku Klux Klan chapter in Colorado Springs.Brian Nicholson, Deseret Morning NewsRon Stallworth carries his KKK membership card as a memento. Problem was, the outgoing Klan leader didn’t know that Stallworth is black.“He asked me to take over the lead because I was a good, loyal Klansman,” said Stallworth, who had been in constant phone contact with the Klan leader while leading a yearlong Colorado Springs police investigation into the Klan.Stallworth later moved to Utah, where he recently retired after nearly 20 years as an investigator for the Utah Department of Public Safety. He says he’s amazed that no one ever caught on to the investigation he led starting in 1979. After he was offered Klan leadership, he quietly disappeared.As a memento Stallworth still carries his Klan membership card — signed by David Duke.“It was one of the most fun” investigations, he said. “Everybody said it couldn’t be done.”Stallworth communicated with Klan leaders using the telephone. A white officer posing as Stallworth went to the meetings.“The challenge for me was to maintain the conversation flow,” Stallworth said. At the same time, Stallworth also led an undercover investigation into the Progressive Labor Party, a communist group that protested at Klan rallies.Stallworth, of Layton, worked 30 years in law enforcement in four states. Stallworth’s undercover experience and research led him to become a nationally known expert on gang culture.He calls the Klan investigation “one of the most significant investigations I was ever involved in because of the scope and the magnitude of how it unfolded.”The investigation revealed that Klan members were in the military, including two at NORAD who controlled the triggers for nuclear weapons.“I was told they were being reassigned to somewhere like the North Pole or Greenland,” Stallworth said.The Klan investigation isn’t the only time Stallworth has been mistaken for a white guy.He’s been contacted by academics about his “scholarly research” on gangs. One such academic “said he was so impressed that a white Mormon in Utah could write such an impressive work on black gang culture.”Stallworth said he laughed and explained that not only is he not white or Mormon, he started his college career in 1971 and remains about 2 1/2 years shy of his bachelor’s degree.Stallworth started to work on gang activity for the Utah Department of Public Safety in the late 1980s. He wrote a report that led to the formation of Utah’s first gang task force — the Gang Narcotics Intelligence Unit that involved the Utah Division of Investigation and the Salt Lake City Police Department.“Based on what was going on at the time, I knew about the L.A. gang problem,” he said. Utah gang suspects were “telling us they were Crips from California.”Stallworth said of his work in Utah, it’s his investigation of gangs that he’s most proud of.“It’s had a lasting impact, first and foremost, on law enforcement,” he said.Wes McBride, president of the California Gang Investigators Association and retired from the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, said about 15 years ago he “heard about this guy in Salt Lake who was becoming an expert” in gangsta rap music. So, he invited Stallworth to speak on the topic. It was the first of a series of lectures Stallworth gave on street-gang culture.“I don’t know that any of us ever listened to it,” McBride said. “Where he was instrumental with us was pointing out to listen to the words, to listen to what these gangsters were saying.”The two both testified in a 1993 homicide in which a Texas state trooper was killed by a 19-year-old gang member, McBride said. Stallworth was the expert witness on the connection between gangsta rap and gang culture in the case, McBride recalled.Leticia Medina, executive director of Utah Issues, said she started working with Stallworth on gangs in the late 1980s, when the first Metro Gang Unit was under development. She was a youth corrections provider at the time.“He was very interested in what my perspectives were,” she said. “I learned from him as much as I hope he learned from me.“Law enforcement is not something that I grew up trusting. I had an opportunity to deal with a cop and see his world,” she said.At the time, Medina said, law enforcement wasn’t involved in the community.“They started the Metro Gang Unit, and everyone knew who the gang unit was,” she said. “One key that Ron worked on was getting to know the community and community leaders. . . . Law enforcement needed to be trained in cultural competence and gang culture.”Stallworth has self-published four books on gang culture and has testified before Congress on gangs and violence. He also served as the state’s first gang-intelligence coordinator.In 1994, he was selected by the U.S. Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center to participate in a national street-gang symposium, the results of which were presented to the U.S. attorney general.Now that he’s retired, Stallworth plans to remain active, politically and otherwise.Stallworth is chairman of the Black Advisory Council and serves on Layton’s Parks and Recreation Commission and Planning Commission.He also was one of several applicants for a vacant City Council seat in Layton. Stallworth didn’t get the seat but says he plans to run for City Council.He coaches a youth track team for 9-to-14-year-old boys and girls, and would like to volunteer for the Huntsman Cancer Center, which cared for his wife, Micki, before her death.Stallworth is also going back to school. He wants to complete a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice administration at Columbia College.Medina said she wouldn’t be surprised if Stallworth continues to speak up on issues close to him.“Now that he’s retired, watch out,” Medina said. “He is very committed to all these communities. He is also very committed to the career he chose as a law-enforcement officer. . . . People need to take the time to really listen to him.”
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Welcome to the truth about the Knights' Party - the truth they don't want you to hear

2007-10-11T19:13:00.000-07:00

This blog will expose the most false pro-white group out there- the Knights' Party. They are also known as the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Many of the things you will learn here will shock you. If you are new to the movement please don't rethink why you joined. Not all people and groups are frauds like this phony. Not all leaders are thieves and liars like those of the Knights' Party. Many great and honest people are Klansmen, National Socialists and warriors of our race.

Before you read on, please visit http://www.kkk.com/, their main website. I want you to read it closely. The naked eye can't catch all the lies there. In the near future I will expose many lies from that very site. I'd say the majority of information there is lies.

Again, please don't rethink our great movement. Some people actually cares about our children and our future. The Knights' Party however, does not.