The below comments are not those of the staff here at Christian Frauds. These are taken from http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/ml062103.html. We are not saying these are true or not. However, please read and make your own mind up.
I'm going to Joplin with my wife and grandchildren in a few minutes, so I don't have time to answer Klunt's counter-accusations today. However, like most of the vermin that I have outed over the years, like Kernal Red Mike Vanderkike, Khazarl Worden, Ed-the-FiBbIe Dog (misnomered Wolfe), and Claire-the-Jackal (also misnomered Wolfe) it is always best to make accusations based upon what elements of truth are available at the time, then have their ego bring them into the trap wherein more can be discovered about their allies, sources of support, etc. In interrogating these Spawn of Satan one doesn't have the power to compel them to attend for interrogation, much less use methods to make them talk. All these degenerates have is their ego, in which they threaten to sue, whine, and then have their fellow kikes have you censored, i.e., jewhooed. Their ego brings them back until such time they realize that they have said way too much.
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/tsmc-5.html
I urge people to look at Klunt's jewhoo profile. It indicates quite a bit which Dual-Seedliners will find to be satanic. She definitely has a Genesis 3:15 hatred of us, which, as a spawn of Satan she should have. Genesis 3:15 is the only one of YHWH's Commandments that both the spawn of Satan and the Sons of YHWH both obey. Look at Klunt's article on Stormfront. It has the reek of godless kike satanic femnishevism. I have no doubt that Klunt was quite a number and that she was the sexual mascot of the Washington State KKK, pimped out by her husband the Grand Dragon, until she run off with Downey.
What got me onto this whore's bad side was her obvious hatred of Dual-Seedline and her getting Willie Martin censored off of Andy Blanchardsmamzer-Belialsson Anderson's former Holy_War jewhoogroop after Andy had purged all of the Dual-Seedliners and thus had no use for Willie Martin being a moderator to use as camoflage and cover. Yes, I wanted Willie to leave Belialsson's listserver preferably voluntarily, and was really happy that Klunt pulled a Salome on Willie, but still, only us Dual-Seedliners get to treat fellow Dual-Seedliners mean, NOT some lying satanic whore for her own self-serving satanic purposes.
So when it happened back in March 2002, I immediately asked the Dual-Seedliners in Washington State to dig me up a big steaming stinking pile of shit on Downey and Klunt, and was pretty much gratified to find out that they were regarded as worse than Annaniass and Sapphira. Nobody loves a whore and her monger, especially sanctimonious degenerate ones putting on airs. Needless to say, I got an earful on Klunt and Downey.
Klunt and Downey have no place to go. They are marked and branded as Satan's livestock by the Klan and the Christian Identity devout, doth One- and Dual-Seedliners. The One-Seedliners won't allow these thieving dogs into their flock to pull a Jim&Tammy Bakker on them. They are known to Identity folk as far away as Virginia. The only refuge that they have is playing Identity on ignorant Nazi wannabes, and I'm closing that option.
Klunt's denials mean nothing to me or anyone because Klunt is a liar on the other side. Those that hate me or Dual-Seedline won't believe anything I say, either. In ZOG's final days, truth is altogether a function of what side you are on.
Klunt was smarter in the spring of 2002. When Klunt's biographical history came out, Klunt waited a week, denied none of it, and merely screetched that myself and a few others were bruiting about 'vicious gossip.' Klunt wouldn't come out baring her teeth like a cornered rat unless Klunt felt, correctly, that she is cornered and has no other choice.
OK, Klunt, give it your best shot. I'd advise you not to make a Terms of Service cumplaint to jewhoo like Meggie and Turkic Kikehound did because the one unforgivable thing which will never be forgotten is getting an entire listserver jewhooed. It happens so often; jd_grier is in its third or so new group. ZOGs_War got jewhooed a week or so ago, and you are one of the suspects. Drop the jewhoo bomb of censorship, Klunt, and jew might as well pack it in forever.
By the way, even though Klunt has been e-mailing me directly, good sense in avoiding a jewhoo cumplaint involves NEVER talking directly to these spawn of Satan, as they will call in the ADL/SPLC/FBI and all of ZOG's guard dogs. Klunt is reading every word about herself, as is Downey, and they are shitting bullets. They have but a short time and they have been outed.
--Martin LindstedtBouncer of Baal-Priests and Temple Prostitutes
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Klunt ("lydia_the_faithful" (lydia@kinsmanredeemer.com) ) sez:
I have heard this garbage from Lindstedt long enough. While I owe NO explanation to Lindstedt, he has perpetuated lies about me ever since I married Mark Downey. So let me come out with the truth in order to expose Linstedt to be as much as a liar as what Jesus claims in John 8:44. And make no mistake about it, Lindstedt is as evil as any jew.
As a good Christian woman, actively dedicated to the furtherance of the White Racialist Movement for close to 30 years, I'm here to tell you that there is no truth to any of what Lindstedt has posted here in his accusations. Now you have my word against his, but we hold ourselves accountable to a local CI community of several different fellowships and I have evidence and witnessness to disprove what he charges here. He does not know us, nor we him. I find it interesting that the men of these groups do not mind the lies and lewdness of this man.
In his 'UNIQUE' style, he continues to build on this story year after year so that it becomes more preposterous with each new embellishment, and then presents them 'to the world' as truth, as if it's some expose'. We've ignored him as long as we could, but this defamation and slander must be answered to.
Lindstedt to JDGrier on another board said: "Klunt even admitted that she snuck in a private message to you demanding censorship and publicly demanding censorship as well."
My Response to the JDGrier: You and I know and nowhere was it stated that I ever sent a private message to you. But Lindstedt will go on believing for YEARS thatI sent you a private message, AND … he'll elaborate on that as time goes on.
Another one of his `truths', Lindstedt says: "on their own little listserver ghettos where their MAIN TOPIC OF CONVERSATION is `Have you seen the awful things that Martin Lindstedt has been saying about us?"
My response: If you ever visited the groups we participate on, you will know that the MAIN TOPIC OF CONVERSATION is the same as most White Racialist groups and on not on what this perverted little man is saying about us.
The censorship happens when he shows his true colors in HOW he says what he is saying. The first post he put on JDGrier is what his fruits are all about. It's full of lies (and I'll remind you slander and defamation), pornographic lewdness and filth. Should that be allowed on Christian sites???? THAT sure sets a good example of what racialist Christianity is all about, huh??? I don't believe that for one moment, and either did the owners of the other Christian listservers. Hence his FILTH is censored.
I find it interesting that Seedliners allow this filth without taking Lindstedt to task for UNCHRISTLIKE behavior. The Christian men I learned from (Butler, Miles, Louis Beam, among many others) in 20+ years of being a Seedliner weren't anything like this. It was this ugly, unchristlike, unaccountable type of behavior exhibited by Lindstedt, Bob Jones, John Knight, Willie Martin that goes dishonorably unchastised by the supposed Christians in their listservers that opened my eyes to the type of men who were teaching AND following Seedline. And I turned my back on Seedline because of that.
So, it is time to expose what Lindstedt is saying here, although it is obvious he is doing it to draw us away from our work from God and to distract others from the important issues of White Racialism. The truth of the matter is that he has a private war going with those who do not adhere to the Seedline doctrine. This character admittedly gets PERSONAL information from 3rd sources (and possibly even more distant sources) and then he puts it all together as if it's fact, elaborating on it as time goes by. ANYONE who dares to disagree with him is put through the same grind of filthy name calling and innuendo presented as truth.
For the record, on MY personal situation, he likes to say he's got a whole slew people who have given him information. But, funny thing … he's never come to US asking US about the reliability of that information. He's never ONCE practiced Christian due process. He's gone to `several' Klansmen (and I find THAT quite interesting, because I know the history of Badynski's activism and the condition of the NW Knights' membership when I left Badynski). He's also found his sources in a few of the non Seedline group out here … for which there IS a handful of people here that was quite ticked off at Mark and other church members for holding a bad leader accountable for his unrepentant and overt sins. There WAS gossip about Mark and me from 2 women in that group of ticked off people, but when I heard about the gossip, I approached BOTH women in a Christlike manner and told them the chronology of events and reason I was compelled to leave Badynski.
Apparently, the men of Seedline want to believe the gossip of 2 women. So be it. I find that hilarious, given their propensity to discount and discredit women (especially those who act in a Christlike manner). My secular divorce was pursued ONLY after 2 years of attempts of reconciliation when I found Badynski had been having long-term promiscious internet relationships. I have several hundred e-mails to prove that little scandal. In that time I was counseled by SEVERAL elders, 3 pastors, 2 pastor's wives and 1 secular professional counselor. My secular divorce was pursued AFTER approval from all involved AND at Badynski's bidding. My courtship with Downey occurred AFTER the secular divorce was FINAL and it was done with much counseling, thought and prayer. If men and women don't understand that and wish two faithful servants of the Lord happiness, then that is their issue with God. But they will not be running MY life.
Now my word against Lindstedt's? Oh, you bet. But, accountability will remain where our Lord and Master is concerned. Lindstedt will have his day of judgment, and so will all the other men on these lists who have not taken him to task for his unchristlike actions. And I will continue to expose this filthy liar and challenge the TRUE MEN OF GOD to chastise his filth and unchristlike behavior.
Now, for a couple comments about his post. My comments are in all caps, not for yelling, but to differentiate his comments from mine.
From: "Martin Lindstedt" Date: Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:47 am Subject: Regarding Richard Niemela and sundry ZOGite baal-priestsFrom: To: mlindste@m... Cc: mlindste@j... Bcc: Subject: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:44:54 -0400
Downey and his current female fixture, Klunt, has the disadvantage of their past history of whore-dumb and mongering of said whore in that Klunt used to be the wife of the Washington State Grand Dragon and Downey stole the Klavern's sexual mascot, i.e., Klailiff, or as I call her, Klunt. So they don't play well amongst the locals who know their past history and took great care to inform myself and others within Identity, especially the Dual-Seedline variant, of the history of these Annaniasses and Sapphiras. So what they do is promulgate their bastardized version of what they call Identity
LYDIA: MY ANSWER TO YOU IS STATED ABOVE AS TO WHY MY DIVORCE WAS PURSUED AND MY ACTIONS TO RESOLVE MY MARITAL PROBLEMS. CONTINUE TO LIE ON YAHOO GROUPS AND IT WILL BE LABELED DEFAMATION.
Actually reading Downey's witless drivel, especially, 'Leaderless Identity,' one sees an immense Genesis 3:15-inspired hatred for Dual-Seedline orthodoxy since such has no place for the likes of Downey and Klunt. Yet Downey hates the One-Seedliners, like Pete Peters as well,
LYDIA: THE FRUIT OF HATRED COMES FROM YOU, BUDDY. MARK HAS FELLOWSHIPPED WITH SEEDLINERS FOR OVER 20 YEARS NOW. YOU HATE THE FACT HE DOESN'T TEACH IT.
because Peters is successful and has a following amongst the One- Seedliners, a following that Downey and Klunt shall never attain because of their open greed and avarice.
LYDIA: WHAT IS YOUR PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM OF OUR 'OPEN GREED AND AVARICE'? MAKE IT GOOD NOW, BUDDY.
consequently, they cannot and will not attend any One-Seedline gatherings where they are known & notorious.
LYDIA: AGAIN, LINDSTEDT, ANOTHER ARGUMENT BASED ON A BAD ASSUMPTION. BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE POSTING ON JDGRIER, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY REFERRING TO THE LAST VISIT BY PETERS. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CLUE WHY WE WEREN'T THERE, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ABOVE CHARGE.
I am not a pastor, I am a politician and enforcer. I do not prosletize for Dual-Seedline doxology. Yet I would insist that anyone calling themselves Identity practice Identity, preferably Dual-Seedline Orthodoxy.
--Martin Lindstedt A Defender of the (DS-CI) Faith
TO THE SMALL g god LINDSTEDT: YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT, AND I'LL BET YOUR RESPONSE WILL JUST BE THE FRUIT OF WHAT'S IN YOUR HEART AND WHAT YOU THINK A CHRISTLIKE MENTALITY IS: FILTH, LIES, PERVERSION.
YOUR LIES ARE HEREBY EXPOSED. I KNOW WHAT YOUR GAME IS, AND THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY JUDGED ME. WHATEVER EVIDENCE I BRING TO THIS WILL BE TWISTED AND DISCOUNTED AS YOU TRY TO TAKE MY TIME AWAY FROM GOD'S PURPOSE TO COUNTER YOUR SORRY, COUNTLESS LITTLE LIES. YOU HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH CHRISTIAN JURISPRUDENCE IN THIS WAR OF YOURS, AND FOR THAT YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
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