Five Lies at www.kkk.com: Part II

1-It has long been the belief of Pastor Robb that the Klan needed to get back into the political scene.


Really? Robb has been in charge since 1989. Can he provide a list of all his members who have ran for public office? I can answer that for you. No. His group is nothing more than a mailing list of suckers who donate to him monthly.


2- A. Become the leader of the White racialist movement
Through a strong organized show of leadership


Yes, the drunks like Bobby Malick and Andy Haskins. What a "strong" leadership they are.


3-Unit Recruiter - A Man or woman who has obtained the rank of Knight can apply by way of application to be a unit recruiter. A minimum of a high school diploma or G.E.D. is required.


Explain Randy Gray then.(high school drop out)


4- The highest rank is that of Knight . Not everyone seeks to earn that position as it is reserved for only the most dedicated and loyal.


Cough, cough. Actually, you buy and pay for your rank as you go.


5- Mr. Robb has been a powerful spokesman the past 30 years for the white rights movement.


What has Robb done in the past 10-15 years? Ask yourself the following -

1) Where was Robb at speaking out against the Jena 6?

2) Where was Robb at in Knoxville?

3) Where was Robb at during the Norfolk attack?

4) Where was Robb at during the Tony Finch trial?

He was too busy doing nothing. What a "leader".

Knights' Party - Making people pay for information

Take a look at this http://www.christianconcepts.net/information_pack_contains.htm. The Knights' Party charge $5.00 for "information". Nearly 90% of this same crap can be found at their website. What a scam!!

Most groups will send you information for free. Look at the ANSWP for instance. They send people free magazines for free. And no, not a back cover like the Knights' Party who charges for a back cover. They will send you an entire magazine for free. I recently wrote the BOK and they too sent me a free information packet. If those two groups can do that, why can't the Knights' Party?

They are "America's Largest Pro-White" group as they claim. They should have tons of money to send free sample copies then. Then again, we know all of that to be lies. What another Jewish rip off by these con-men.

Knights' Party - ripping people off by selling Klan Robes

Like Jews, the Knights' Party love to rip their membership off. I was taking a look at some paperwork I had gotten while a member myself. I also took a look over their members Only Site at http://www.theknightsparty.com/. They charge $130 and up for a Klan Robe. What a rip off.

You can e-mail the owner of http://www.kkklan.com/ and ask for his pricing. He sells his robes for $85. And they are the same exact robes! If he can sell them that cheap, why do the Knights' Party sell them for nearly $50 more? Easy, they pocket the rest of the extra cash. Other words, they screw you!

Even the people at Rebware(http://rebware.biz/) sell their robes cheaper than the Knights' Party. And they make the best robes on the market. Again, if they can make robes that cheap, why can't the Knights' Party?

This is just another scam created by the Knights' Party. People, how many lies do I need to point out until you wake up? These people call themselves Christians and yet, lie over and over again. If this is our last hope in America we are screwed.

Knights' Party - Their love of booze

The Knights Party claim to be "Christian". Their leader, Thom Robb, claims to be a "real man" of God. Sometimes we are unclear on who this "god" is.

Listen, I know many people who drink. I have no issue with that. But, there is a different of drinking and being a drunk. Drunks are people who let drinking take over their lives. They miss work due to drinking. They abuse their wives due to drinking. They mistreat their children due to drinking. Some even kill people due to drinking. These people are known as "Drunks".

As a Christian, drunks can never be tolerated. You would think the Knights Party would believe the same. However, they seem to turn a blind eye on drunken membership. This is a fact they cannot deny.

Up until around 2005 or so, Bobby Malick was part of their "HQ" staff. Bobby was a known drunk. He was known to drink Moonshine, Whiskey and Vodka. Even during the Knights' Party annual Klan Congress, Bobby would attend drunk. Did the Knights' Party kick him out? Not even close! He is still an active member. And they are Christians? Did Thom-boy miss the part of drunkenness being a sin in the Bible while attending Bible college?

Their Indiana leader, Andy Haskins, took drinking to a whole new level. Haskins took a job as a truck driver in early 2006. He was caught drunk while behind the wheel. Haskins was arrested and charged with a felony. You can easily search his public records for the proof. Again, is this Christian behaviour?

Now, we cannot confirm the next person as being a drunk. But ex members of the Knights Party who belong to the IKA, BOK, Empire Knights, Bayou Knights, and National Knights all have reported Rachel Pendergraft, Thom Robb's daughter is also a drunk. Now, we have no proof of this and nor are we claiming this to be fact. However, isn't it odd that she being in charge of membership does nothing while members are known drunks? Very odd if you ask me. To be honest, I wouldn't doubt if the claims about her are true. It makes perfect sense. We have been told Rachel has a lust for Crown Royal Whiskey and Bud Light.

Fake Members who don't exist - more lies from the "Christian" Leadership of the Knights' Party

For Christians, these people sure lie a lot. Since the Knights’ Party is a dying breed, they make up fake members. I feel bad for the new people who do sign up for the Knights. They are going to send you information with lies. Many of you will even get letters signed by “fake people” who don’t exist. And yet, the ‘Christian Leadership” of the Knights will send this false information to you.

Any Knights’ Party members out there reading this? If so, please answer this question to yourself. Have you ever gotten a letter from any of the following people or seen their name on the Crusader?

1 – Cynthia O’Grady

2 – Paul Jefferson

3- Paul Shepard

When I joined, I got a letter signed by Mrs. O’Grady. Did you know none of the above three people exist? However, the “Christian Leadership” of the Knights’ Party claim them do. Not only that, they claim they work at their National HQ. All lies!

Now, ask yourself this second question. Have you attended any of their events such as Klan Congress, their Christmas function or their Walk for White Pride? If so, have you ever met any of the above three people? I know for a fact you have not? And you know why? They don’t exist! You have a better chance of meeting a Zombie then these three made up characters.

Ask yourself this third question. Why would “Christians” lie about such nonsense? Easy, they are frauds.

Pastor Visser Speaks out on Mark and Debbie Downey of the Knights' Party

None of this was written by the staff here at Christian Frauds. This information was written by Pastor Visser. His website(which I hope you will read over) can be found at http://cpm.freehostia.com/.


A Seedliner asked: Why did Jezebel finally ban you? Over doctrine?


Seedliner,This is a question I had hoped wouldn’t show up here as I cared less about being “banned” from such an antichristian forum in the first place. However, since certain self-professed “children of Satan” have decided to slander me while I’m unable to defend myself I suppose a few words of clarity are in order. Like Clifton Emahiser, Pete Peters or anyone else who believes in a literal Satan, I also have gone the same route of having my hands tied behind my back by the jew while they tirelessly slander me behind my back. It’s no surprise, really – by their “fruits” you know them.This brings me to addressing certain lies that have been stated about me this week:First and foremost – Klaliff never once “put her reputation on the line to get Visser back here” as she’s recently stated.


If Debra Downey had any bearing in my short return to Stormfront then it’s certainly the first time I’ve ever heard of it. In fact, had such a woman with questionable morals even asked me if she could’ve spoken for me I would’ve declined the offer (more on this later). The first time I was actually banned by Grand Inquisitor for making death threats towards jews and pagans but allowed back on the boards after promising to never make the same “mistake [sic] again.” It was due to countless phone calls that I made on my own behalf that I was allowed to return to the Christian Identity sub forums at Stormfront. No more, no less.Secondly, I was banned this second (and final) time for simply holding a different opinion on doctrine. After releasing Judaism Has No Devil I was met with demerit points by Klaliff on EVERY SINGLE post I made (irregardless of content). After reminding her that I once again desired a debate with her effeminized “husband” (more on this later) for his recent attacks on Clifton Emahiser I was told by private message that my “type of Satan-worshipping tripe was no longer welcome at Stormfront.” Not the CI sub forums – Stormfront, period. Hell hath no fury like a whore who’s power-tripping.


Finally, after pointing out that the Bible considers women who leave their husband for another man as an adulteress (Romans 7:2-3) I was quickly banned, had my website removed from the “CI Link List” thread and had my last twenty-or-so posts deleted in the hopes that nobody would notice. Naturally, the e-mails began to pour in and numerous other WN message boards picked up the story on their own.Now, for what “really” lead up to my banning:On April 20th (Hitler’s birthday) I received an e-mail from Debra Downey claiming that Mark had “beaten her severely” and threw her “out on the street with her two cats.” She claimed she had nowhere else to go and asked if I might be able to help her out with shelter or possibly money for a bus ticket back to Washington State. After e-mailing her for more information, in her next e-mail (which she claimed she was writing from a public library) she explained that Mark Downey had been in correspondence with both the ADL and SPLC and doing his part in trying to destroy seedline ministries. She even claimed she was against such actions and this lead to their domestic dispute.Naturally, I smelled a rat but it wasn’t Mark Downey as I’ve always figured he was a ZOG agent (at least pro-jewish doctrinally) – the rat I smelled was Debra Downey herself. As I figured it was a trap I never responded to her second e-mail and less than a week later I was banned without further explanation.The fact of the matter is I feel I was banned for teaching what Wesley Swift, Richard Butler, Ray Redfeairn, Pete Peters and practically every other Christian Identity adherent has taught – seedline. It’s from this seedline doctrine that we derive the term “Christian Identity” and my banning has certainly opened many eyes to the double-standard and continual man-bashing going on by Mark Downey’s makeshift “wife.” Support for CPM has actually INCREASED in spite of my banning (which is how it was the initial time) and because of the enormous loss of time posting over there I’m choosing not to even bother requesting “re-instatement.”


I simply have no desire to be coached and ruled over by a whorish woman who’s living in sin with her makeshift pastor.Speaking of which, several months ago Mark Downey had even contacted me desiring to be ordained because my “ordination was only thrice removed from Wesley Swift.” When I told him it would be degrading to the memory of Swift, Butler and Morris Gullet to ordain a non-seedliner he went on the warpath attempting to discredit ALL seedliners. Both he and his lover began continually attacking seedline even though it’s taught in the Bible, the prophet Enoch and the early church fathers. To them, I became the enemy when I changed my signature to “War for Christ.” To them, I became a threat to their teaching that their own flesh IS Satan (even though I believe that they’re both wicked). This seems to be a continual cycle with them both as they’ve done similarly to CSCS, numerous Yahoo message boards and of most recently – Clifton Emahiser himself.There’s a lot more to tell but I honestly hope I never have to. While I assume their only option will be to state that I’m “slandering” it should be stated that I never believed EITHER of their bogus stories.


I would never ordain an obvious snake like Mark Downey nor would I open my home to an adulteress (much less allow her to usurp position over me as Mark seemingly has). I simply have much more Biblical wisdom than that – there ARE NO non-seedline Klansmen, lol.Be sure to read my recent series on angels – it’s my hope that by studying each particular angel the reality of Satan (the fallen one) will eventually take focus. Many have been lead aside by the imposters and CI false prophets MUST give the appearance that they’re Christian – that snake is right here in our midst. Truthfully, I’ll be the first to behead such pitiful abominations when given my chance.More about Kluntliff here.Up the Irons and War MORE for Christ,

This made the staff here at Christian Frauds laugh

Taken from http://www.kkk.com/ -

2007 National Christmas Fellowship Conference
December 1st and 2nd
at the White Christian Revival Center at Harrison, AR
Speakers, holiday banquet, Heritage Connection band, Children's activities including cookie decorating, games, and Bible lessons -meet wonderful Christian families who share your concerns. Motels nearby, white heritage books and souvenirs available. All White Christian patriots invited.

Staff - Wonderful Christians? Now that is too funny. Yes, people who lie and lie as we've proven so many times here at Christian Frauds. For those who don't know, 12-15 people at best normally show up for this event. Don't forget, this is "America's Largest Pro-White Organization".

Knights' Party Lie about Membership Size

For Christians, these people lie a lot. Is Thom Robb Jewish? I am starting to wonder with all the lies I see coming from this group. Here is what they claim at http://www.kkk.com/ - "America's Largest White Organization". Really?

The truth is - Today, they're in paltry eighth place, out of 34 Klan organizations, with six chapters. Taken from Mark Potok of the SPLC.

Staff - We hate to quote Mark Potok, but he is actually right here for the most part. Actually, three of the "chapters" aren't even chapters. Potok still list for instance, the Knights' Party in Fairdale, KY. That unit no longer exists. Two other units aren't even units. The Newport, TN unit is nothing more than a website. The unit in Concord, AR is also a fake. It's one guy - Richard Hensely.

Like always, the leadership of the Knights' Party lies. How dare they claim to be the largest pro-white group when they aren't even the largest KKK group.

Jessica Gray - a "Christian" woman that lies

Many times in the past, I've read so many lies on various forums by Jessica Gray. A while back on VNN she claimed she did not know who Andy Haskins was.

Now, I find this funny for a few reasons -

1) First off, her husband is good friends with him

2) Second, her husband helped get him his truck driving job

3) Third, how does Jessica explain the above picture of her husband standing next to Andy Haskins?

Amazing that Jessica doesn't know Andy. I mean, she took the picture of her husband standing next to him and Michael Burks.

From left to right as follows - Michael Burks, Randy Gray (Jessica's husband) and Andy Haskins - the man she claims she doesn't know.

Jessica calls herself a Christian and lies about something so dumb. Yes, this is the typical membership of the Knights' Party - losers.

HQ Staffer Richard Hensley lies on the Members Only Forums

Some poor fool recently became a lifetime member of the Knights' Party. He posted this on their members only forum. Below is the lie by golfball whose real name is Richard Hensley.


golfballJoined: 10 Jun 2005Posts: 1212Location: Cleburne County, Arkansas
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:33 AM Post subject:

Congratulations! I am a lifetime associate as well because our activism will continue even after we win. Our pro-racial political message helps whites to see that non-whites push their racial agenda daily and have not displayed any signs of ceasing.



Staff - Activism? What do the Knights' Party do besides a public access show that 5-10 people watch and their short-wave radio show that 12 non-English speaking farmers pick up in Albania?

1) Where were the Knights' Party during Knoxville? (no show)

2) Where were the North Carolina members at during the Tony Finch Case? (no show)

3) Where were the Knights' Party at during Jena 6? (no show)

4) Where were the Knights' Party at during the black gang attack in Norfolk, VA? (no show)

Activism? What is Richard talking about? Letting non-whites join? Allowing my buddy's dog to join?

If that is how you define activism, then yes, the Knights' are number one in doing nothing useful for our race. Everyone, please clap for them. They are, "The Last Hope for America".

Mark Downey admits he has no support - nobody supports the Knights' Party

It seems to be a trend among members of the Knights' Party to have trouble recruiting new members. While groups like the BOK and ANSWP grow and grow, the Knights' Party are dying out day by day. This was taken from http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/kentucky-white-pride-events-428548.html.

Mark "pastor" Downey admits no one attends his "church" services. Too funny.

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Re: Kentucky white pride events
I moved to Kentucky about two years ago from Washington state where we had a Christian Identity church and had organized many many events over the years (some of which were political through the old Populist Party and in more recent years affiliated with Thom Robb's Knights Party). I would like to organize similar events here in Kentucky, but since I've been here, there's been little interest from WN's in attending our weekly church services, which are also a vehicle for public activism. I'm not sure if the people in this neck of the woods are just looking for beer and entertainment or if they have a desire to effectively organize, which means rolling up your sleeves and doing some work. If I can't get people interested in the little things, what is it going to take to do something like a large conference with speakers and amenities? What are people in KY really looking for? Back in Washington I organized an Aryan Film Festival which was very successful (and all the popcorn you could eat); we've hosted dinner engagements with well know racialists such as Richard Kelly Hoskins, Everett Siliven, Alan Campbell (from Ireland), James Townsend, David Irving, Don Wassel, David Duke, Jack Mohr, Bo Gritz, Michael A. Hoffman, Thom Robb and many more. Organizing these kind of events takes a lot of time and energy. I'd like to hear from people in this area if they would attend something that requierd them to perhaps travel more than 50 miles and spend perhaps $50 or more in expenses (gas, food, lodging). That's the bottom line these days folks. What are you willing to do to make it happen?

Five Lies at www.kkk.com - Part 1

1-NO Longer Will The Knights Settle for OUT-DATED Klan Rallies Ignored by The Media!

Staff - The Knights Party will do nothing. That is their method of being ignored by media.

2 - WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY TO FIGHT FOR WHITE RIGHTS


Staff- By doing a public access show that nobody watches.

3 - THE KNIGHTS IS LEADING THE WAY

Staff- How? By promoting high school drop outs and drunks as state leaders?

4 - We want our Klansmen and Klanswomen to live their lives as honorable, decent, dignified white people.

Staff - If that was true, why have you all had NEGRO members in the past?

5 - To earn these higher ranks requires activity and study. At all times the staff at headquarters will be there to guide and assist you. After you have proven yourself to be a committed Knight you can become "naturalized" at the annual National Klan Congress in Harrison, Arkansas which is held on Labor Day weekend each year. (Note: this is NOT an initiation, but rather a solemn and memorable Christian ceremony conducted by National Director Pastor Thomas Robb)

Staff - Not true. You buy rank. Tests? Sure you all take tests...